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    Making water.

    It comes that at this time, there is a great shortage of water in the world that is useful. There is plenty of sea water, but, that is out of reach of most countries. We need a method to literally make water out of thin air!

    First, we need to observe that the water is merely condensed air, yes? This is then possible through the cooling of air, of course. This can be achieved by using a mechanism I theorized a while ago where we simply strike at poles of metal with other poles or bricks to cool the area. This would leave the free electron circulating the rest of the area, then the excess protons 'will cool the rest of the pole.'

    This would mean the pole would be cooler than the rest of the area, so, repeatedly striking and freeing electrons or sparks would result in the left over excess protons multiplying and cooling the pole even more. So...

    If we were to set up a few rotating poles near a dam or bucket even, and strike it over and over with other bricks or poles, they would cool the area, having air condense on them, and then creating water out of that. This would result in a lot of cool air where the water could condense.
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    cooling systems contribute significantly to greenhouse gases.

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    World water shortages could affect 5 billion by 2050...

    World water shortages could affect 5 billion by 2050: U.N. report
    March 19, 2018 -- About half the world's population could be affected by severe water shortages in the next 30 years due to a number of factors, including climate change, a United Nations report said Monday.
    In its World Water Development Report, U.N. researchers said shortages could directly impact 5 billion people by 2050, when the world population will be between 9 to 10 billion. The study warns that stresses on rivers, lakes, reservoirs, aquifers and other water sources could lead to shortages -- which could then result in conflict, environmental damage and threats to civilization.

    Industrialization, population growth, climate change and the growth of developing countries are straining the water supply, the research says. "The global water cycle is intensifying due to climate change, with wetter regions generally becoming wetter and drier regions becoming even drier," the world body said. "Other global changes (e.g., urbanization, deforestation, intensification of agriculture) add to these challenges."


    A child drinks water from a tap at the United Nations Relief and Works Agency in the Gaza Strip refugee camp. A U.N. report Monday warned that growing stresses on the planet could lead to severe water shortages by 2050.

    The report advocates nature-based solutions that rely on soil, trees and prevention of erosion, and notes global demand for water increases by 1 percent every year. Noting the 2014-5 drought in Sao Paolo, Brazil, which was linked to Amazon deforestation, the U.N. research urges planners to consider a wider geographic area when anticipating water supply. It also says trees and other vegetation help to recycle and distribute water, contrary to the views of many farmers.

    The report encourages sustainable "green solutions" to receive serious consideration, including payments to communities embracing ecosystem improvements. The 134-page report was released Monday in coordination with the start of the World Water Forum in drought-affected Brazil, and the observance of World Water Day on Tuesday.

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    Mexico City Keeps Sinking As Its Water Supply Wastes Away...

    Mexico City Keeps Sinking As Its Water Supply Wastes Away
    September 14, 2018 • "We are depleting volumes of water that took hundreds, thousands of years to store. Sooner or later it will run out," says Mexico City's outgoing water system director.
    It's the rainy season now in Mexico. Between May and September, on most late afternoons, thick clouds roll into Mexico City's mountain-ringed valley. The skies darken and then an amazing downpour ensues. Despite the rainfall, for five months of the year, many of the metropolitan area's more than 20 million residents don't have enough water to drink. Nearly all that rainwater runs off the streets and highways into the city's massive drainage system built to stave off perennial flooding. Drinking water increasingly comes from a vast aquifer under the metropolis. And as that water table drops, the city sinks. So why put a capital city more than 7,000 feet above sea level, in a mountain-ringed valley, that fills like a plugged-up bathtub when it rains? "It's a historic mistake the city has had to pay for more than 500 years," says Ramón Aguirre Díaz, who has run Mexico City's municipal water system for more than a decade.



    The Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral in Zócalo Plaza has had to undergo repeated repairs. It is among the many structures in the Mexican capital that are sinking.



    The ancient Aztecs first picked the spot. They built their city atop the huge lakes that filled this valley, leaving the natural freshwater supply intact around them. The city flooded back then too, but the Aztecs, probably the last civilization to properly manage this watershed, built a system of dikes to control the problem. The "historic mistake" kicked in around the 1600s, when Hernándo Cortés and his band of conquerors arrived. To make room for their expanding empire, over a few hundred years, they slowly but surely drained all the valley's lakes. By the 20th century, long after Mexico's independence from Spain, the fresh surface water was mostly gone and the hunt for new sources had taken over. Hundreds of miles of pipes now bring in about 30 percent of the city's water needs from faraway rivers and lakes. The rest comes from the valley's vast underground aquifer. Today, Aguirre says, twice as much water is pumped out as is put back in. "We are depleting volumes of water that took hundreds, thousands of years to store. Sooner or later it will run out," he says.



    Marco Marquez, 52, keeps storage containers filled with water on his patio. The tap runs dry on a regular basis, but he needs clean water especially for his fruit business.



    When exactly that is, no one really knows. But for those living in the poorer eastern stretches of the city, like 52-year-old Marco Marquez, it feels like now. "Look," he says, as he spins his water tap. "Nothing — not even a drop." During the rainy season, Marquez gets about an hour of water a day. His little patio is crammed with different sizes of storage containers filled with water. During the dry season, he can go two, even three months without water. He says sometimes the government will send in a water tanker truck, known as a pipa, which literally means pipe. "The quality of the water the government provides is really bad quality, it's disgusting," he says. "You can only use it to flush the toilets or wash the sidewalk." Marquez says sometimes he and some neighbors pool their money to buy a private pipa with water from better wells. He needs clean water to run his fresh fruit stand. He has named the small storefront, run out of a street-facing room in his house, the Oasis.



    A large crack cuts through this Mexico City street. Half of the street is lower than the other half, one of many signs this metropolis is sinking.



    The city's underground pipes, half of which are at least 60 years old, fail at an alarming rate. It could take at least 50 years, and hundreds of millions of dollars, to replace all the old, ruptured pipes, according to one official estimate. That means the water tankers are in high demand. Twenty-two-year-old Juan Flores stands on top of a 2,600-gallon tanker. He guides a huge hose connected to a pipe pumping water directly out of the aquifer into the truck. "I'll take this to fill up tanks at schools and hospitals around this district," which borders Mexico City's airport, he says. In many ways sending trucks all over the sprawling capital is a more efficient system than the city's pipes, which are so prone to breaks and leaks that nearly 40 percent of the drinking water running through them is just wasted, according to a government study in 2010.


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    Seems like they're doing it wrong.
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    There is a street here I'm familiar with that has a section that breaks up constantly from groundwater. That photo reminds of the street. They repair and repave about 100 feet of it every few years, and keep it patched up the rest of the time. The problem seems to be an underground spring over which the road is constructed. Since they can't readily move the road, they need to dig up that entire section and fill it with rock and gravel to allow the water to drain away. Then pave over that. Of course, that would cost $X million(s), but seems to me it would fix the problem more permanently and probably save a lot of money in car and tire repairs.

    I would imagine they've looked into this and have some compelling reason for not doing it, but you never know.
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    The "More Needs To Be Done" is always at play with everything government does anymore.

    You can bet your soul that tighter gun controls and gun confiscation is NOT going to solve the problem of gun violence for the simple fact that more needs to be done, never mind all the totally valid research that proves gun control doesn't work.

    It didn't used to be that way, but then academics came along and insisted that more needs to be done, and that is always music to politicians' ears.
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    Venice, Italy also has a serious water problem, which they call acqua alta. Either that fabulous city is sinking or the water it sits in is rising.
    https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-rea...venice-sinking
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-thought.html

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    One thing is certain: As long as government is corrupt, nothing will be fixed.

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