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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    Where did I say equal rights? Civil and human rights have defined nondiscrimination in our economy. Those laws are the ones which tell the baker he has to serve all who come into his business or leave. He doesn't like his tax cuts and breaks from the government, then quit. But government laws of nondiscrimination apply.
    In your post, #136, and I highlighted it: "if he chooses to labor in a democracy where all have equal rights, he has to serve ALL Americans"

    How do you justify that?

    Civil and human rights have defined nondiscrimination in our economy.
    Where is this defined in our economy?

    And then you skip back to laws:

    Those laws are the ones which tell the baker he has to serve all who come into his business or leave. He doesn't like his tax cuts and breaks from the government, then quit. But government laws of nondiscrimination apply.
    My question remains how are such laws justified? And, no, the law does not justify itself.

    If the baker must do it or quit then what of his equal rights to free association, contract, pursuit of happiness? Do it or quit is not a free choice of action. Bake or don't bake is, or should be a free choice just as it is the gay couples free choice to accept a contract with him or say no. Where's the equality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    Nobody is forcing this man to labor; but if he chooses to labor in a democracy where all have equal rights, he has to serve ALL Americans. He wants to deny rights while taking tax cuts and tax breaks then he needs to get out of the business.
    Have you ever heard the phrase "the pursuit of happiness"?

    Do you know what it means? Do you know what it meant to the men who chose to include it as a basic right in our founding document?

    Of course you don't. If you did, you would not have written such a ridiculous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    What are you saying here?
    It is pretty self explanatory. The right of police officers to NOT be discriminated against or denied service are not protected by law and doesn't exist. The right of "protected classes" to be free from the same kind of discrimination IS defined by law.

    In other words, you can deny a cop service in your place of business simply because he is a cop and you have broken no law. Deny a member of the "protected classes" that same service and you run the risk of losing your livelihood or even your freedom.
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