Mister D (12-04-2017)
For waltky: http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
"The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools."
- Thucydides
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
So Somalians will just come to Germany to be paid to return home where they intend to live anyway. Germany is essentially monetizing more people coming in with this program. "We will get you to Germany for $2K and they will pay you $3,500 to leave so you can make an easy $1,500.00 and get to visit somewhere new on your vacation".
Well Obama paid terrorist, so...nothing new!
‘There is no God but Resister and Refugee is his messenger’.
Book of Democrat Things, Chapter 1:1
Ransom (12-06-2017)
You have to put this in the context of EU law:
The EU Common European Asylum System (CEAS) is a set of EU laws, completed in 2005. They are intended to ensure that all EU member states protect the rights of asylum seekers and refugees. The CEAS sets out minimum standards and procedures for processing and deciding asylum applications, and for the treatment of both asylum seekers and those who are recognized as refugees. Implementation of CEAS varies throughout the European Union. A number of EU states still do not operate fair, effective systems of asylum decision-making and support, leading to a patchwork of 28 asylum systems producing uneven results.
Asylum seekers have no legal duty to claim asylum in the first EU state they reach, and many move on, seeking to join relatives or friends for support, or to reach a country with a functioning asylum system. However, the “Dublin” regulation stipulates that EU member states can choose to return asylum seekers to their country of first entry to process their asylum claim, so long as that country has an effective asylum system.
EU countries in the north, the desired destination of many refugees, have sought to use this Dublin system to their advantage, at the expense of the south, where most refugees first arrive. Yet these efforts have been obstructed by failures of asylum systems in the south. Domestic and European courts have ruled against asylum seekers being returned to Greece, notably in a landmark case in 2011 that found Belgium in violation of the European Convention on Human Rights for exposing an Afghan national to detention, harsh living conditions, and risks arising from shortcomings in Greece's asylum system after a return.
To address the uneven application of CEAS and the problems of the Dublin system, a reform of the CEAS was proposed in 2016. Among the proposed reforms is one that risks endangering the right to asylum in the EU, with an obligation to verify first if asylum seekers could find protection outside the EU. Some EU countries have already voiced opposition to some of the reforms, notably the obligation to take refugees from other EU countries.
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.o...european-union
To produce a definitive change, the EU would have to vote to repeal the CEAS, which would essentially fly in the face of the principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to which all members of the EU are signatories, as is the US and many other countries. It further would run into issues with the following:
AFSJ Area of Freedom Security and Justice
CJEU European Court of Justice
EChFR European Charter of Fundamental Rights
ECHR European Convention on Human Rights
ECRE Pan- European Umbrella Organisation for Refugee
ECtHR European Court of Human Rights
EEEAS European External Action Service
ESC European Social Charter EU European Union
UCFR European Charter on Fundamental Rights
FRA European Union’s Fundamental Rights Agency
IMO International Organisation for Migration
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Mahatma Gandhi
Ransom (12-06-2017)
Domestic and European courts have ruled against asylum seekers being returned to Greece, notably in a landmark case in 2011 that found Belgium in violation of the European Convention on Human Rights for exposing an Afghan national to detention, harsh living conditions, and risks arising from shortcomings in Greece's asylum system after a return........
Exposing an Afghan.....mind you.....to "harsh living conditions?"
Those mean ol Belgians......I mean.....taking an Afghan citizen who has never known anything but luxury and nutrition....and "exposing them" to harsh living conditions.......my my. If I were this Afghan.....I would return to Afghanistan where human conditions don't resemble detention, where harsh conditions don't exist, where 3 hots and a cot are the rule of law.
Simply sick to my stomach over this.