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    If Michael Flynn's 'crime' is all Robert Mueller has, it is time to move on

    Here are the important dates detailing Michael Flynn's relationship with Russia that led to his resignation

    Transitions include the president-elect talking to foreign officials. That's not treason; that's the job description.

    On Friday, President Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators about a perfectly legal conversation he had during the presidential transition with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
    Flynn should not have lied, and why he chose to remains a mystery, but the substance of the single-count indictment against Flynn shows that special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation has strayed far from its original purpose.
    We have come down quite a way from the hyperventilation about Russia “hacking the election” a year ago. What happened to Democratic Sen. Mark Warner’s claim, later promoted by Hillary Clinton, that there were 1,000 Russian agents planting anti-Hillary fake news stories in key swing states? Or that Russians had delivered Wisconsin to Trump? All the conspiracy theorists have so far are a few Facebook ads that can’t credibly be shown to have changed even one vote.


    Flynn was fully in his rights making the call to Kislyak. Despite the best efforts of the anti-Trumpers, it is still not illegal to talk to Russians. Even Democratic former CIA director and Defense secretary Leon Panetta said it was a “stretch” to say these contacts broke the law.
    The dust-up seems mainly to be about the decorum of presidential transitions. Days after the 2016 election, the Trump team cautioned the Obama administration against pursuing new and damaging foreign policy initiatives that did not align with Trump’s priorities.
    “I don’t think it’s in keeping with the spirit of the transition,” one of president-elect Trump’s national security advisers told Politico on Nov. 10, 2016, “to try to push through agenda items that are contrary to the president-elect’s positions.”
    The Trump transition team feared, for good reason, that the lame-duck Obama administration was poisoning the well with Russia, and pursuing spiteful anti-Israel policies on the way out the door. Trump asked Flynn, his soon-to-be national security adviser, to open a semi-official channel to Russia through its ambassador to discuss future cooperative efforts against the Islamic State and the United Nations vote on an anti-Israel resolution. As lawyer Alan Dershowitz argued, “Not only was that request not criminal, it was the right thing to do.”
    The phone call to Kislyak, and any other such contacts with foreign officials, should be viewed in that context. This was not, for example, on the level of colluding with shadowy Russian intelligence contacts to create disinformation to try to swing the election, as the authors of the Clinton-connected Trump smear dossier did.
    There was ample precedent for the president-elect to put out feelers to foreign leaders.
    • A memo from the Podesta files released by WikiLeaks shows that the Obama team had planned for the “president-elect and senior officials (to) begin confidential policy consultations with key actors in U.S. and abroad” between Thanksgiving and Inauguration Day.
    • Obama also openly used emissaries and go-betweens to meet with foreign leaders during his transition.
    • And for overwrought members of “the resistance” who think the unenforceable Logan Act is suddenly in play, recall that in 2008 then-candidate Obama arranged substantive foreign policy discussions with numerous foreign dignitaries and leaders during an overseas campaign trip before the election.

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    Why would he bother to flip flynn if his misdeeds are everything he's got?

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    5 million plus at this point:
    Those expenses include money for a staff of more than 16 attorneys, dozens of FBI agents, support staff, travel and office supplies. A more detailed breakdown of those expenditures is expected to be released in the coming days. Investigations of this nature can take years to resolve and run into
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    Meuller indicts Flynn for being a liar, but then want to use the documented liar as a snitch? Right.

    Meuller's investigation is starting to crumble. It's being exposed as a corrupt political operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Why would he bother to flip flynn if his misdeeds are everything he's got?

    Common sense man.
    Well, Flynn has admitted in court to be a liar. What's his worth now? He's stupid is what he is. He lied about something he didn't have to lie about. Talking to the Russians after the election was normal and legal. He should never have talked to the FBI without his attorney. He should have used the Clinton "I can't recall." answers.

    What could Flynn know anyway? You don't seriously think Trump and his people would let him in on anything?

    Really.

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