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    California housing crisis affecting middle class the most: It's 'a broken system'

    For all of its claims of being an economic paradise, California is a failure when it comes to housing.


    Not just low-income, affordable housing, but middle-income, working-class housing for teachers, firemen and long-time residents hoping to live anywhere near work.
    "California has a housing crisis. We can't provide housing to our citizens," said Rita Brandin, with San Diego developer Newland Communities. "In Georgia, Texas and Florida, it can take a year and a half from concept to permits. In California, just the process from concept to approvals, is five years – that does not include the environmental lawsuits faced by 90 percent of projects."

    In 2016, the cities of Houston and Dallas built more homes, 63,000, than the entire Golden State, which built 50,000, according to US Census Bureau figures.



    Housing costs are so out of touch there it is scarry
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    Here in N. Cal we have homeless folks who cannot afford the sky high rents;and they are working FULL TIME!

    I've applied for housing at Senior Apartments, and, typically the waiting period is TWO YEARS or more! Many are moving to Nevada. There are so many homeless, that you cannot go to any shopping center or park without being accosted by panhandlers, and 90% of the police reports are by homeless!

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    Speaking of affordable housing and, California.......my younger sister is low income and, has been disabled for a few years now, she applied for an apartment in a new building being constructed that advertising as, low income.

    She got put on the list, they told her she was # 61.....there would be 80 units available.

    She checked on it about once a week, calling the woman who was in charge of the application process.

    She kept being told, the applications would be mailed out shortly....every time she called, she asked if she was still #61 and, was always told, yes.

    The last time she called, the woman told her, " well, those apartments are for farm workers"....... that's right, up until then, not one word of that was mentioned...... that's discrimination if I've ever heard it.....farm workers? As in, ' migrant ' workers?

    When qualifying for these apartments, not one word about being a "farm worker" was mentioned, you had to be low income and, make under a certain amount, they told my sister, she qualified.

    That's, how $#@!ty California is, they protect illegals, making sure they have a nice new apartment and, give legal citizens, the shaft.

    I hope California burns to the $#@!ing ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    For all of its claims of being an economic paradise, California is a failure when it comes to housing.


    Not just low-income, affordable housing, but middle-income, working-class housing for teachers, firemen and long-time residents hoping to live anywhere near work.
    "California has a housing crisis. We can't provide housing to our citizens," said Rita Brandin, with San Diego developer Newland Communities. "In Georgia, Texas and Florida, it can take a year and a half from concept to permits. In California, just the process from concept to approvals, is five years – that does not include the environmental lawsuits faced by 90 percent of projects."

    In 2016, the cities of Houston and Dallas built more homes, 63,000, than the entire Golden State, which built 50,000, according to US Census Bureau figures.



    Housing costs are so out of touch there it is scarry
    Here in Charleston SC you can't live here as a low paid or low middle class income. There is no system. I sell my house for as much as I can get. That's the way it goes and the way it's supposed to go. There is no solution. Public housing has never worked; never anyplace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abby08 View Post
    Speaking of affordable housing and, California.......my younger sister is low income and, has been disabled for a few years now, she applied for an apartment in a new building being constructed that advertising as, low income.

    She got put on the list, they told her she was # 61.....there would be 80 units available.

    She checked on it about once a week, calling the woman who was in charge of the application process.

    She kept being told, the applications would be mailed out shortly....every time she called, she asked if she was still #61 and, was always told, yes.

    The last time she called, the woman told her, " well, those apartments are for farm workers"....... that's right, up until then, not one word of that was mentioned...... that's discrimination if I've ever heard it.....farm workers? As in, ' migrant ' workers?

    When qualifying for these apartments, not one word about being a "farm worker" was mentioned, you had to be low income and, make under a certain amount, they told my sister, she qualified.

    That's, how $#@!ty California is, they protect illegals, making sure they have a nice new apartment and, give legal citizens, the shaft.

    I hope California burns to the $#@!ing ground.
    Nahh. A conniption fit at the San Andreas would do the trick more effectively
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    For all of its claims of being an economic paradise, California is a failure when it comes to housing.


    Not just low-income, affordable housing, but middle-income, working-class housing for teachers, firemen and long-time residents hoping to live anywhere near work.
    "California has a housing crisis. We can't provide housing to our citizens," said Rita Brandin, with San Diego developer Newland Communities. "In Georgia, Texas and Florida, it can take a year and a half from concept to permits. In California, just the process from concept to approvals, is five years – that does not include the environmental lawsuits faced by 90 percent of projects."
    In 2016, the cities of Houston and Dallas built more homes, 63,000, than the entire Golden State, which built 50,000, according to US Census Bureau figures.



    Housing costs are so out of touch there it is scarry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Nahh. A conniption fit at the San Andreas would do the trick more effectively
    Everybody wants to live there, so the market adjusts to demand. I'm not sure why cons would be upset about this, it's the free market at work.

    Right?

    Also, another thing to consider are the wildfires that have been ravaging CA this year. That's going to have an affect on prices as well.
    Last edited by leekohler2; 12-15-2017 at 11:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris The Animal View Post
    Nahh. A conniption fit at the San Andreas would do the trick more effectively
    I'll accept that as an option.

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    I really want out know what the OP thinks should be done- should real estate developers now be told what they can charge? Should there be a law made?

    I would really like to hear what cons think should be done here.
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    I'm waiting, cons. Should real estate developers lower prices out of the goodness of their hearts? Should they take losses in order to provide affordable housing?
    Or is something else needed?

    Seems to me that the only answer your side ever offers is, "Well if you can't afford to live there, you'll have to live somewhere else." I'm not sure why that doesn't work for you in this situation.
    Last edited by leekohler2; 12-15-2017 at 12:59 PM.
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