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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Military adventurism is not defense.
    You don't get to define what our military is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You don't get to define what our military is doing.
    Sure I do. America is still a free country, thankfully.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Sure I do. America is still a free country, thankfully.
    You still don't have a vote in Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You still don't have a vote in Congress.
    Sure I do. Technically, I have three. Two senators and a Representative.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Sure I do. Technically, I have three. Two senators and a Representative.
    Be that true what real impact do any of us have as individuals, I think the best example of that if the peoples word truly had meaning would we still be fighting in the middle east after 17yrs.

    There are so many things that the majority is against and it doesnt matter, its been that way all my adult political life.
    LETS GO BRANDON
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Ok tha is certainly one perspective.
    No Treason by Lysander Spooner

    ...Among savages, mere physical strength, on the part of one man, may enable him to rob, enslave, or kill another man. Among barbarians, mere physical strength, on the part of a body of men, disciplined, and acting in concert, though with very little money or other wealth, may, under some circumstances, enable them to rob, enslave, or kill another body of men, as numerous, or perhaps even more numerous, than themselves. And among both savages and barbarians, mere want may sometimes compel one man to sell himself as a slave to another. But with (so-called) civilized peoples, among whom knowledge, wealth, and the means of acting in concert, have become diffused; and who have invented such weapons and other means of defense as to render mere physical strength of less importance; and by whom soldiers in any requisite number, and other instrumentalities of war in any requisite amount, can always be had for money, the question of war, and consequently the question of power, is little else than a mere question of money. As a necessary consequence, those who stand ready to furnish this money, are the real rulers. It is so in Europe, and it is so in this country.

    In Europe, the nominal rulers, the emperors and kings and parliaments, are anything but the real rulers of their respective countries. They are little or nothing else than mere tools, employed by the wealthy to rob, enslave, and (if need be) murder those who have less wealth, or none at all.

    The Rothschilds, and that class of money-lenders of whom they are the representatives and agents – men who never think of lending a shilling to their next-door neighbors, for purposes of honest industry, unless upon the most ample security, and at the highest rate of interest – stand ready, at all times, to lend money in unlimited amounts to those robbers and murderers, who call themselves governments, to be expended in shooting down those who do not submit quietly to being robbed and enslaved.

    They lend their money in this manner, knowing that it is to be expended in murdering their fellow men, for simply seeking their liberty and their rights; knowing also that neither the interest nor the principal will ever be paid, except as it will be extorted under terror of the repetition of such murders as those for which the money lent is to be expended...
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    The dollar is backed by debt.
    That is perhaps the proximate backing, but the higher-level distal backing of the USD (and all FIAT monies) are the police powers of the state.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Defense. It's the basic job of government.
    Expenditures on the military have gone FAR beyond mere defensive purposes.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    That is perhaps the proximate backing, but the higher-level distal backing of the USD (and all FIAT monies) are the police powers of the state.
    I am a big fan of police powers when they are directed at someone other than me for my benefit.

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