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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    OK, well, as a libertarian anarchist, I'm just pushing the Overton Window. Not all libertarians would go so far. But that does still leave the question open, who should decide?
    We have elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    OSHA has all but been dismantled by republicans since Reagan. We don't have safety in the workplace. But when we did, people did not die at job sites.
    That statement is either stupid or a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Being forced to wear a mask when in the presence of sodium oxide dust but the mask say they are only for comfort. OSHA approved them.
    It's not just as simple as being "forced" to wear a mask. There is a short term exposure limit and a permissible exposure limit based upon an eight hour work day. The level of protection needed for you to carry out your job is based upon medical and historical data collected that shows how the substance you are exposed to affects a human body. Based upon your work environment, it could require a N95 or higher mask, full or half face respirator, or even a self contained breathing apparatus. All of which requires a respirator program, medical surveillance with an annual physical, and a fit test prior to use. If your level of exposure is less than a established PEL or STEL, but the employee still wants to wear a mask and not be enrolled in a respirator program, then a "comfort" mask is allowed to be worn. If an employer is giving an employee a "comfort mask" without the necessary precautions taken to make sure the employee is not exposed to any substance above the PEL and STEL, then the employer is at risk of being cited by OSHA for a violation.

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    I've seen very little evidence that government regulations improve safety or, if they do improve safety, that the benefits are worth the costs. Of course, people who make a living off of "safety" and its attendant regulations will no doubt argue otherwise. I mean, what else are they going to do? Admit that their livelihood is a farce and a burden on society?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We have elections.
    The deep state doesn't care about elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Being forced to wear a mask when in the presence of sodium oxide dust but the mask say they are only for comfort. OSHA approved them.
    That is a stupid rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    A. Wasn't talking to you.

    B. You didn't answer the question, you ranted.

    C. You are making unwarranted assumptions about me based on your prejudices rather than reality.


    Would you like to try again? Maybe this time we can actually have a discussion.

    I didn't rant, I simply did not agree with you.

    A. Its an open forum. If you want just one person to answer go to the Private Message function

    B. I did answer the question. I said and I meant that any regulation out of government is not meant to do anything but control the people.

    C. I am making warranted assumptions based on your constant post against free and open markets. You want more and more controls but as I pointed out those controls are only designed to eliminate competition. Ergo it must mean you want small businesses eliminated. You cannot promote small business by making it impossible for them to operate.

    And I doubt rather seriously that we could ever have a discussion since you don't want to discuss, you want to preach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The deep state doesn't care about elections.
    Well you have a point there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    The deep state doesn't care about elections.

    In any organization it is not the top officials that control that organization but the petty unelected career bureaucrats.
    Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sort of my point. Central planners in DC cannot possibly know what local business planners do and so rules are made that do more harm than good.
    Local safety people could.Fire marshals are local and I've found them to be pretty good.

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