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    In order to save one persons life, Jesus violently killed 2000 animals. 2000 pigs running off a cliff and didn't think twice about it.

    And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
    4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
    5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
    6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
    For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
    9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
    10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
    11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
    12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea.
    14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Awesome documentary Orion. Thanks for posting that. Cool! There was so much information in it. Very interesting. I really like these kinds of historical documentaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ODB View Post
    Do animals go to heaven when they die?
    Genesis chapter 1, verse 9, they live to ascend when they die.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    @Orion Rules Check out this interesting one that I watched a few days ago, very interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ODB View Post
    Do animals go to heaven when they die?
    I have no idea what book this person reads. But Genesis chapter 1 vs 9 says And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    But if you read the Bible the answer is no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    I have no idea what book this person reads. But Genesis chapter 1 vs 9 says And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    But if you read the Bible the answer is no.
    If you don't mind me asking, where does it say that?
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    You are intent on directing it. You have no knowledge to show it. In order to save a single life, He died on the cross. An animal can mean a human, as pigs are not the same as swine.

    Jesus directed the money changers out of his Father's house, but you are still intent on legitimitizing that false religion as having any merit. Isaiah 1, the practice of divination.


    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    In order to save one persons life, Jesus violently killed 2000 animals. 2000 pigs running off a cliff and didn't think twice about it.

    And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
    4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
    5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
    6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
    7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
    For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
    9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
    10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
    11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
    12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea.
    14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
    https://twitter.com/WildHorseEdu

    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    I have no idea what book this person reads. But Genesis chapter 1 vs 9 says And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

    But if you read the Bible the answer is no.
    Check out this link https://www.openbible.info/topics/do...s_go_to_heaven

    I was partial to this one

    Ecclesiastes 3:19-21

    For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    But if you read the Bible the answer is no.
    I don't like it, but that's been my understanding. I've not seen it confirmed or denied in the Bible though. But because we (humans) were given the ability to reason, make intelligent (subjective) and moral decisions, whereas animals can't, they can't choose to believe or disbelieve in God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ODB View Post
    I don't like it, but that's been my understanding. I've not seen it confirmed or denied in the Bible though. But because we (humans) were given the ability to reason, make intelligent (subjective) and moral decisions, whereas animals can't, they can't choose to believe or disbelieve in God.
    I think that we humans only believe in God because we are taught to. Imagine if there was a person born who was alienated from society, and they never heard of God, would that person not go to heaven when they die? Now I am not arguing because I think I know the answer at all. But it is for thought purposes. I love to learn and keep my mind open.

    I have witnessed animals being able to reason and make intelligent moral decisions. For instance have you seen news stories of animals saving humans lives? I have found that animals and even insects are capable of intelligent thought, and moral decisions. Here are a few instances just for thought.

    Elephants mourn their dead http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1497634.htm
    Another of Elephants mourning https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...-animal-grief/
    Animals that saved human lives https://www.itsnature.org/what-on-ea...g-human-lives/
    Ant intelligence https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...the-wrong-way/
    Intelligent bees https://www.for-children.com/w_creatures02.html
    Intelligent crows https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-year-old.html

    Lastly this is an awesome vid. An elephant is rescued and family salutes rescuers

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