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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    I just don't remember any concern for Chinese influence and manipulation while BHO was President. I remember the TPP for example. They 'fast-track' these things so the President can go sign the 'accord.' Then 90 days after the text is released.....but never made public, nor debated on.....is passed. Mind you...no enforcement, currency manipulations at the heart of this issue and China of course is whipping our ass as the President has alluded to.

    I remember Obama refocusing our military to deal with the growing Chinese influence, especially their artificial island building....not a peep from Democrats. I caution those who claim this withdrawal from TPP is China filling any gap. I challenge those to explain why the US should spend its' fortunes on global warming......when the Chinese are 5 times responsible for it.
    Yeah, this is all a bit...sudden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Mistakes were made, that is inarguable in hindsite. None of those things were examples of disengaging or abdicating our world leadership positions like letting Putin lead in Syria, dumping international trade agreements, and running from the Paris accords and NATO.
    And where were you when those mistakes were being made? Crepitus? Can we see some criticism from you regarding foreign policies and mistakes that were made? What were some of those mistakes. Egypt, Libya, not supporting Iranian protests? The withdrawal from Iraq for political reasons, allowing the Islamic State to march over the Levant, being late to the table in opposing and confronting terrorism? Not closing Gitmo? Everyone speaks to his capture and killing of Bin Laden, what of his 'surge' in Afghanistan that was a failure and cost many American lives and coin? His offending Israel, his weakness shown towards Putin, his inaction concerning the Chinese or North Koreans?

    What were the mistakes....specifically Crepitus....and where were you when they were being made?

    A f'n......oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Yeah, this is all a bit...sudden.
    A "bit" sudden, but a shiit ton of fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    And where were you when those mistakes were being made? Crepitus? Can we see some criticism from you regarding foreign policies and mistakes that were made? What were some of those mistakes. Egypt, Libya, not supporting Iranian protests? The withdrawal from Iraq for political reasons, allowing the Islamic State to march over the Levant, being late to the table in opposing and confronting terrorism? Not closing Gitmo? Everyone speaks to his capture and killing of Bin Laden, what of his 'surge' in Afghanistan that was a failure and cost many American lives and coin? His offending Israel, his weakness shown towards Putin, his inaction concerning the Chinese or North Koreans?

    What were the mistakes....specifically Crepitus....and where were you when they were being made?

    A f'n......oops.
    Most of those. Libya was an extremely stupid move. Qaddafi was running the model of a North African state.

    The occupation of Iraq was mishandled. The occupation of Afghanistan was an utter disaster.

    Allowing Neocons into the halls of power was the cause of all of this. (And their close cousins the liberal war hawks.)
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