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Thread: How good the stock market under Trump really is, in one chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Nice, don't like the numbers so accuse me of lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    In fairness to The Donald, isn't The Obama's chart really a false equivalency? Didn't it really take a pelosi right before he took office so it going up a lot meant we were recovering what we falsely lost due to that panic?
    That is what I mean by the chart being slices in time separated from what came before. The market's rise while Obama was President followed the Great Recession and was largely recovery, even more so for FDR following the depression.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Crep, I honestly don't know enough about it, I just remember it had dumped massively right before and right after he took over so it was way low to begin with and then shortly after started its upward climb. I have long believed that if they left well enough alone it'd have all recovered fuller without all of the regulatory handcuffs. I just remember it being very low in march or april, having dumped twice in that short timeframe, so in my mind it was a false low brought about by emotional economic panic.
    I disagree on the regulations. The current market bubble is based on the belief that Trump will remove even more regulations than he has already freeing them to make ever more risky moves and will lead inevitably to another crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    If you highlight the Obama line you will see that the market was actually still in free fall when he took over, dropping almost 20 points below his baseline zero before beginning an upward trend. If we used the low point as the zero he would have outperformed everyone on the chart.
    The problem here is the market recovered, the market rose, the market performed.

    Not Obama...or Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I disagree on the regulations. The current market bubble is based on the belief that Trump will remove even more regulations than he has already freeing them to make ever more risky moves and will lead inevitably to another crash.
    I assumed you would relative to the regulations; and, I'm not advocating a free-for-all.

    My broker is telling me that a correction is coming -- 15% give or take -- according to their prognosticators. He thinks that we should move some gains to the sidelines and be prepared to jump back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    So, you don't know how the market works then.
    So you are another dindno huh?

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    There are always corrections. The silly people sell after one occurs. They are likely the ones complaining now about markets and the working man.

    The market always bounces back.
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    That no one knows what is going to happen all because of insider trading deals that sometimes work out, often not enough dough to bargain with, that anti-trust lawsuits have been harbored against who and when?

    The stock market goes volatile, smooths out, goes up and down, no one knows anything else save but what their broker knows, or their own ideas of, perhaps right enough, or wrong holes, whales killed for Japan!

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    wut?
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    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

    Bad Stock Markets are the result of Republicans no matter who is in office. Good stock markets are the result of Democrats no matter who is in office.


    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

    10% of $100.00 is $10.00. 9.5% of $10,000.00 is $950.00. I have made more money under Trump then under Obama.

    If Trump walked on water and cured the sick leftist would claim he couldn't swim and was trying to put doctors out of business.

    Face it all of you with Trump Derangement Syndrome the US is a better place now than it was on Jan 1, 2016.
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