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    What to know about the death penalty in 2018

    What to know about the death penalty in 2018

    I remain virulently opposed to the death penalty for, inter alia, one of which is the same reason I oppose abortion. This article provides us kind of a where-we-are today.
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    I stand firmly in the position of the death penalty should be used sparingly on rare occaisions for those humans that have proven to be unsalvageable.
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    I am against the death penalty. I might be for it if there were a way to be 100% certain of guilt. I support pharmaceutical companies that are refusing to provide specific drugs to institutions that practice lethal injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    What to know about the death penalty in 2018

    I remain virulently opposed to the death penalty for, inter alia, one of which is the same reason I oppose abortion. This article provides us kind of a where-we-are today.
    Aren't you an attorney? I think you are but don't know for sure. I do know this- how can something be unconstitutional when it is talked about in the Constitution itself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Aren't you an attorney? I think you are but don't know for sure. I do know this- how can something be unconstitutional when it is talked about in the Constitution itself?
    Yes, I am an attorney.

    I didn’t say that the death penalty is unconstitutional. In fact, the Constitution arguably sanctions capital punishment in several instances. The Eighth Amendment is the most famous, with its injunction against inflicting "cruel and unusual punishments." The Fifth Amendment also provides textual support for lethal punishment. No person, it reads, shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." That arguably conversely means the government may in fact deprive you of your life, but only after you've been properly charged, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death (and then only after you have exhausted your legal appeals). Upon ratification in 1868, the 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause applied that safeguard against the states. I said I oppose it for several reasons, one of which is the same reason I oppose abortion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    I stand firmly in the position of the death penalty should be used sparingly on rare occaisions for those humans that have proven to be unsalvageable.
    I agree about the sparingly, but disagree it should come down to salvageability. If they present a heightened risk to kill or seriously injure guards or other inmates, it should be on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Yes, I am an attorney.

    I didn’t say that the death penalty is unconstitutional. In fact, the Constitution arguably sanctions capital punishment in several instances. The Eighth Amendment is the most famous, with its injunction against inflicting "cruel and unusual punishments." The Fifth Amendment also provides textual support for lethal punishment. No person, it reads, shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." That arguably conversely means the government may in fact deprive you of your life, but only after you've been properly charged, tried, convicted, and sentenced to death (and then only after you have exhausted your legal appeals). Upon ratification in 1868, the 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause applied that safeguard against the states. I said I oppose it for several reasons, one of which is the same reason I oppose abortion.
    I wasn't being sarcastic. I don't remember what everyone here is.

    That aside, I misread something in the article. I apologize for replying to something you didn't say.

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