Members banned from this thread: Mister D, Chris, Safety, Bethere and resister


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 6 of 48 FirstFirst ... 234567891016 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 60 of 472

Thread: Alabama Player Yells, F*** Trump!"

  1. #51
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433803
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,173
    Thanked 81,392x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Yet, if previous discussions list public universities as "government actors", then him being sanctioned for his "speech" would fall under his right to free speech being violated. So the conundrum that is this topic flows like this....if it was argued before that universities are government actors, and them restricting a speech from an agitator is unlawful, then restricting the speech from this player is unlawful as well. But, if you are saying universities are not "government actors", then the previous argument about restricting speech from agitators is null and void. Right @Chris?
    Wrong. Misreading past and present. But I';ll let these guys argue as they're doing a great and clear job of it.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  2. #52
    Points: 94,805, Level: 75
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 2,545
    Overall activity: 0.2%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Bethere's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    880606
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Dayton, Ohio
    Posts
    19,837
    Points
    94,805
    Level
    75
    Thanks Given
    9,426
    Thanked 5,107x in 4,132 Posts
    Mentioned
    324 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Land yours.I said Wilson was wrong when he did it. That sort of lets the air out of your balloon.Stick to being a sidekick like Tonto and Mouse Boy.
    To me, I have no issues with him being at the game. Standing at midfield? He asked for it.

  3. #53
    Points: 122,776, Level: 84
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsTagger Second ClassVeteran
    Safety's Avatar Nationalist
    Karma
    2616415
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    GA/FL
    Posts
    50,789
    Points
    122,776
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    25,014
    Thanked 22,901x in 15,599 Posts
    Mentioned
    1237 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    No, they are not. You're the only one saying that.
    Nah, I'm not the one that suggested that, only that someone did and my argument against it was met with a $#@!load of resistance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Good, this will push the issue up front, those for free speech vs those against, and hopefully make university and police, both as government actors, choose who they represent.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

    - Jefferson Davis

  4. #54
    Points: 84,713, Level: 70
    Level completed: 95%, Points required for next Level: 137
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger Second Class50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Captdon's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    12846
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Charleston South Carolina
    Posts
    38,366
    Points
    84,713
    Level
    70
    Thanks Given
    67,825
    Thanked 12,857x in 10,150 Posts
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    My "nonsense" is trying to set the record straight for those that argue whether a university is allowed to restrict free speech. It can't go both ways to say they can't restrict a speech, to now saying they can.
    *sigh* It's about the rights of students and employees. They don't have any right of free speech. They never did.Colleges have all sort of rules. Also, this was a game played in a stadium.They can refuse to allow you to wave a banner. You're favoring chaos. Try slapping your head. Maybe that will clear things up.

  5. #55
    Points: 122,776, Level: 84
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsTagger Second ClassVeteran
    Safety's Avatar Nationalist
    Karma
    2616415
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    GA/FL
    Posts
    50,789
    Points
    122,776
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    25,014
    Thanked 22,901x in 15,599 Posts
    Mentioned
    1237 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Wrong. Misreading past and present. But I';ll let these guys argue as they're doing a great and clear job of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    *sigh* It's about the rights of students and employees. They don't have any right of free speech. They never did.Colleges have all sort of rules. Also, this was a game played in a stadium.They can refuse to allow you to wave a banner. You're favoring chaos. Try slapping your head. Maybe that will clear things up.
    LoL, ok.

    http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...h-Cancellation

    So that speech cancelled is an outrage, but this student should be sanctioned.

    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

    - Jefferson Davis

  6. #56
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433803
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,173
    Thanked 81,392x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Nah, I'm not the one that suggested that, only that someone did and my argument against it was met with a $#@!load of resistance.
    Different topic, different context, different argument.

    As for me, I haven't even had a chance to read the OP what with call your call outs.

    Could you stop trolling me and try to discuss this topic?
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  7. #57
    Points: 667,551, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 97.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassYour first GroupOverdrive50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Awards:
    Discussion Ender
    Chris's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    433803
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    198,047
    Points
    667,551
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    32,173
    Thanked 81,392x in 54,974 Posts
    Mentioned
    2013 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    LoL, ok.

    http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...h-Cancellation

    So that speech cancelled is an outrage, but this student should be sanctioned.


    @Cannons Front explained this already.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

  8. #58
    Points: 84,713, Level: 70
    Level completed: 95%, Points required for next Level: 137
    Overall activity: 5.0%
    Achievements:
    Tagger Second Class50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Captdon's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    12846
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Charleston South Carolina
    Posts
    38,366
    Points
    84,713
    Level
    70
    Thanks Given
    67,825
    Thanked 12,857x in 10,150 Posts
    Mentioned
    162 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    No need for the insults, I know it feels like you are getting your ass handed to you, but in reality I am only setting the record straight from a previous discussion. I have no beef with you.
    You were the one insulting. You always have a beef with me. I don't care so much as I can dish it out too. You ignored what I said about schools "violating" the 4th Amendment on locker searches and SCOTUS allows it. No right is absolute, not ever. Try responding to my post.

    I haven't said a word about Trump being disrespected. I thought the last President was a sissy-boy liar who hurt this country. I said that and don't care what you say about Trump per se.I don't see any reason I should be quiet though.

  9. #59
    Points: 122,776, Level: 84
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 74
    Overall activity: 0.1%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsTagger Second ClassVeteran
    Safety's Avatar Nationalist
    Karma
    2616415
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    GA/FL
    Posts
    50,789
    Points
    122,776
    Level
    84
    Thanks Given
    25,014
    Thanked 22,901x in 15,599 Posts
    Mentioned
    1237 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Different topic, different context, different argument.

    As for me, I haven't even had a chance to read the OP what with call your call outs.

    Could you stop trolling me and try to discuss this topic?
    Different thread, same topic, same context, and unsurprisingly, different argument based upon the subject.

    http://thepoliticalforums.com/thread...s-Rights/page2

    Amazing how "different" the argument is in this case vs Millo....
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

    - Jefferson Davis

  10. #60
    Points: 94,805, Level: 75
    Level completed: 3%, Points required for next Level: 2,545
    Overall activity: 0.2%
    Achievements:
    SocialTagger Second Class50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Bethere's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    880606
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Location
    Dayton, Ohio
    Posts
    19,837
    Points
    94,805
    Level
    75
    Thanks Given
    9,426
    Thanked 5,107x in 4,132 Posts
    Mentioned
    324 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Wrong. Misreading past and present. But I';ll let these guys argue as they're doing a great and clear job of it.
    You'll 'let' them.

    Sweet.

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts