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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    How could I be referring to WW2? Do you think the UK joined you in that war? There was nothing illegal about WW2 on the allied side, and the UK was fighting the Germans and Italians for nearly three years before the Japanese bombed you into the war, and Hitler declared war on the USA. I was talking about Iraq, and back then, Vietnam. We do history in class - you know!

    And yes we did learn about the so-called Pilgrim Fathers. Most of them were total religious nutters who were not fleeing religious persecution (they were Protestants - only the Catholics were persecuted in the 16th and 17th centuries) but they were not allowed to impose their crazy brand of Christianity on the rest of England - that's why they 'fled'. They were the most hated people in England, and when they went to Holland, they were disliked there too.

    I'm not interested in why some Americans didn't like President Obama - what I'm trying to discuss is why President Trump is considered a dangerous fool - not only in the USA but around the world. I can't help that you don't like that - but it would be useful if we could talk about that without nasty remarks about other countries. And remember, Donald Trump is not the USA, and worldwide opinion of Trump is not worldwide opinion of the USA.
    Thanks for the clarification- I had a mind fart re "illegal wars," sorry.

    Regarding talking bad about other countries, allowing sharia courts is a fact, and detrimental to society. If you feel that is disparaging a country, so be it. We see what is happening in France, Germany, and your country, and want no part of it.
    Why were Protestants considered crazy, in your view?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Wait, so the OP talking about writing a letter to the school to get the player sanctioned is nothing more than an a knee-jerk reaction to someone that “appeared” to do something? I guess if he had looked like Tim Tebow, he would never have been accused in the first place....
    You are correct. Although I doubt a letter was sent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyS View Post
    Thanks for the clarification- I had a mind fart re "illegal wars," sorry.
    Hey, no worries - I was just a bit confused why you thought I was talking about WW2.

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    Regarding talking bad about other countries, allowing sharia courts is a fact, and detrimental to society. If you feel that is disparaging a country, so be it. We see what is happening in France, Germany, and your country, and want no part of it.
    AFIK, there are no Sharia Courts in either the UK, or in Australia. 'The Sharia' is a Muslim religious arbitration council dealing with family disputes, just like Beth Din is a Jewish religious council dealing with things to do with the Jewish religion. But neither the Sharia nor Beth Din can over ride British or Australian Law, and neither can impose punishments which are outside the law. So no religious courts are allowed in either country.

    But I was really answering this -

    Quote Originally Posted by KathyS View Post
    If you're interested in learning why many Americans believe in individuality and independence from other nations, take a look at what drove Brits to flee their country way back when.
    Why were Protestants considered crazy, in your view?
    I never said that - in fact it was the protestant English (Church of England) who couldn't stand the radical members of the Puritan English Separatist Church, because they - the Puritan Separatists - wanted to do away with just about all the observances of the Church of England, including the Book of Common Prayer, and religious festivals like Christmas. They also wanted the government to ban dancing, the theatre, and a lot of things like that. It was because they couldn't get their way with those things that they claimed religious persecution, and went first to Leiden in Holland, and when the Dutch couldn't stand them, they went to the New World. There were actually only 35 of them on the Mayflower, the rest were ordinary Puritans (who were a bit weird, but nothing like the Separatists) and other people.

    This might help -

    Finally, lets annihilate the idea that they were victims of religious persecution. OK a few of them might have been, but not as popular legend would have you believe, in the same way that Jews for example were persecuted. The Pilgrims were in fact for the large part religious dissenters or separatists, to the recently established Church of England. And they weren’t Puritans in the truest sense of the word either, for the most part. Let me explain. In late 16th Century England, Queen Elizabeth, keen to foster a model of religious harmony, had made a few tweaks to the religious mess she had been handed when big sister Mary passed away. Her rule of five years wasn’t long, but it was enough to create a fair amount of chaos as far as the Church was concerned. Particularly following the upheaval of the Church by her father, and the following embellishments under their brother’s rule, led by reformers within his close circle.

    Firstly, Elizabeth reintroduced Protestantism, the Anglican Church, back into the lead role, having been brought up as such herself. Then she passed Acts of Tolerance, allowing the peaceful worship of other faiths without (much) prejudice. Provided the followers of other faiths went about it quietly, and didn’t use it as a reason to try and dislodge her from her long-awaited place on the throne of England, she was happy to turn a blind eye. Those who had fled under Mary’s rule, were finally able to return from their exile because let’s face it, whilst remaining a staunch Catholic, Mary was still very much her father’s daughter, and wasn’t averse to lighting a few fires under prominent Protestants.

    Amongst those returning, were Protestant clergy, whose next task was to purify the Anglican Church once more from its Catholic constraints. This led to the later label of Puritanism; a label which is often misinterpreted as to represent the “moral virtue” of its participants.
    http://www.historynaked.com/puritans...lgrim-fathers/
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    Quote Originally Posted by silvereyes View Post
    I can guarantee you that a good portion of it is. Ive invited several people here FROM BOTH SIDES and pop in and read and then say "no thanks, not with all that personal sniping and fighting."
    I don't understand that. That being why some people have to come over here from other forums, post a little, get their conservative friends they meet here to join their forum, then start talking bad about us over there. Even Advisors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvereyes View Post
    I can guarantee you that a good portion of it is. Ive invited several people here FROM BOTH SIDES and pop in and read and then say "no thanks, not with all that personal sniping and fighting."
    Personal sniping describes the vast majority of your contribution here. What an absolutely incredible post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Hey, no worries - I was just a bit confused why you thought I was talking about WW2.



    AFIK, there are no Sharia Courts in either the UK, or in Australia. 'The Sharia' is a Muslim religious arbitration council dealing with family disputes, just like Beth Din is a Jewish religious council dealing with things to do with the Jewish religion. But neither the Sharia nor Beth Din can over ride British or Australian Law, and neither can impose punishments which are outside the law. So no religious courts are allowed in either country.

    But I was really answering this -



    I never said that - in fact it was the protestant English (Church of England) who couldn't stand the radical members of the Puritan English Separatist Church, because they - the Puritan Separatists - wanted to do away with just about all the observances of the Church of England, including the Book of Common Prayer, and religious festivals like Christmas. They also wanted the government to ban dancing, the theatre, and a lot of things like that. It was because they couldn't get their way with those things that they claimed religious persecution, and went first to Leiden in Holland, and when the Dutch couldn't stand them, they went to the New World. There were actually only 35 of them on the Mayflower, the rest were ordinary Puritans (who were a bit weird, but nothing like the Separatists) and other people.

    This might help -

    http://www.historynaked.com/puritans...lgrim-fathers/
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    Have you read the Quran? I keep a copy here and occasionally reread certain verses to remind myself why I never want to see sharia courts here, particularly those that address marital issues.
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    Yeah, everyone is a racist.

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    Your act gets old, Cig-erh I mean Safety. Yeah, the OP is a racist. Good point.
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    Sure, while you're basking in all that glory, I wonder how many wrote letters to his school to get him sanctioned....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    I don't understand that. That being why some people have to come over here from other forums, post a little, get their conservative friends they meet here to join their forum, then start talking bad about us over there. Even Advisors.

    This place deserves being talked about.

    Heel biting is rampant. I spend perhaps 10 minutes a day here while I spend hours at the sister site.

    Think for a minute, why would this be? Could it be because leftists are vile people? The other site is 99% conservative Americans and we have nothing like this.

    Oops, my ten minutes are up. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KathyS View Post
    Re bolded- I'm old. That's my only excuse.
    You don't need an excuse to be mistaken. I make mistakes all the time, and you come across as a wise person, who doesn't need to apologise to a dumbo like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by KathyS View Post
    Have you read the Quran? I keep a copy here and occasionally reread certain verses to remind myself why I never want to see sharia courts here, particularly those that address marital issues.
    Fair 'nuff - I haven't read the Quran, and while I have nothing against Muslim people, I don't want to know about any fundamentalist religion, and I don't want it to rule any part of my life.

    But I guess all we can do is make sure our laws are strong enough, and our society healthy enough, so that religion of any sort doesn't rule us. People should be free to have their own spiritual beliefs, but they should never be allowed to impose those beliefs upon anyone who doesn't share them - whether by Beth Din or the Sharia, or by education systems, or by the media, or by civic laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shady Slim View Post
    This place deserves being talked about.

    Heel biting is rampant. I spend perhaps 10 minutes a day here while I spend hours at the sister site.

    Think for a minute, why would this be? Could it be because leftists are vile people? The other site is 99% conservative Americans and we have nothing like this.

    Oops, my ten minutes are up. See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.
    Well, I guess it could be that what you call 'leftists' (definition please) are all vile people who think exactly alike (all the millions of them around the world), or could it be that on any discussion board where 99% of the members are conservative Americans (or Socialist Norwegians,) there won't be as much political argument as on a more balanced forum?
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