User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 24

Thread: VIDEO: Antifa protesters struggle to define fascism

  1. #1
    Points: 68,393, Level: 63
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveSocial50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    resister's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    153995
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Arcadia Fl
    Posts
    29,321
    Points
    68,393
    Level
    63
    Thanks Given
    23,069
    Thanked 9,976x in 7,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    261 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    VIDEO: Antifa protesters struggle to define fascism

    They are all about fighting Fascism, it might be helpful if they even had an inkling what the hell it actually is?


  2. The Following User Says Thank You to resister For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Points: 48,331, Level: 53
    Level completed: 72%, Points required for next Level: 519
    Overall activity: 17.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    The Xl's Avatar Advisor
    Karma
    190637
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    21,916
    Points
    48,331
    Level
    53
    Thanks Given
    4,117
    Thanked 13,830x in 8,603 Posts
    Mentioned
    401 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Those cucks probably have a hard time defining anything.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to The Xl For This Useful Post:

    resister (01-09-2018)

  5. #3
    Points: 68,393, Level: 63
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveSocial50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    resister's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    153995
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Arcadia Fl
    Posts
    29,321
    Points
    68,393
    Level
    63
    Thanks Given
    23,069
    Thanked 9,976x in 7,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    261 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Those cucks probably have a hard time defining anything.
    "I'm out here protesting.....uhm, don't know but whatever it is, I'm sure protesting it! Attachment 22150

  6. #4
    Points: 18,518, Level: 32
    Level completed: 98%, Points required for next Level: 32
    Overall activity: 38.0%
    Achievements:
    Social25000 Experience PointsVeteranTagger Second Class
    Dr. Strangelove's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    18009
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    N. California, Sierra foothills
    Posts
    7,042
    Points
    18,518
    Level
    32
    Thanks Given
    2,354
    Thanked 1,770x in 1,450 Posts
    Mentioned
    43 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This is a general composition of fascism;

    Umberto Eco

    In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", cultural theorist Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[14] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:
    • "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
    • "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
    • "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
    • "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
    • "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
    • "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
    • "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
    • Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
    • "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
    • "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
    • "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
    • "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
    • "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
    • "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
    Mussolini said that fascisim was the merging of state with corporatism, which is exactly what we have here in the uSA!

    As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. --H.L. Mencken,

  7. #5
    Points: 68,393, Level: 63
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveSocial50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    resister's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    153995
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Arcadia Fl
    Posts
    29,321
    Points
    68,393
    Level
    63
    Thanks Given
    23,069
    Thanked 9,976x in 7,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    261 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Some of the excuses they give for not being able to define it are hilarious. It's like they know how stupid it makes them look, but they cant do anything about it, other than stand there and look stupid.

  8. #6
    Points: 96,993, Level: 75
    Level completed: 87%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Crepitus's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    1253560
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    35,331
    Points
    96,993
    Level
    75
    Thanks Given
    15,796
    Thanked 11,785x in 8,561 Posts
    Mentioned
    409 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I have an idea!

    I'm gonna Google "trump supporters are dumb" and start posting those videos as if the represent all trump supoorters!

    That sounds like fun, huh?
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

  9. #7
    Original Ranter
    Points: 208,128, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 52.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialRecommendation Second ClassOverdrive50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Mister D's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    391163
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    83,194
    Points
    208,128
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    16,287
    Thanked 28,105x in 20,241 Posts
    Mentioned
    860 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    This is a general composition of fascism;

    Umberto Eco

    In his 1995 essay "Eternal Fascism", cultural theorist Umberto Eco lists fourteen general properties of fascist ideology.[14] He argues that it is not possible to organise these into a coherent system, but that "it is enough that one of them be present to allow fascism to coagulate around it". He uses the term "Ur-fascism" as a generic description of different historical forms of fascism. The fourteen properties are as follows:
    • "The Cult of Tradition", characterized by cultural syncretism, even at the risk of internal contradiction. When all truth has already been revealed by Tradition, no new learning can occur, only further interpretation and refinement.
    • "The Rejection of modernism", which views the rationalistic development of Western culture since the Enlightenment as a descent into depravity. Eco distinguishes this from a rejection of superficial technological advancement, as many fascist regimes cite their industrial potency as proof of the vitality of their system.
    • "The Cult of Action for Action's Sake", which dictates that action is of value in itself, and should be taken without intellectual reflection. This, says Eco, is connected with anti-intellectualism and irrationalism, and often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science.
    • "Disagreement Is Treason" – Fascism devalues intellectual discourse and critical reasoning as barriers to action, as well as out of fear that such analysis will expose the contradictions embodied in a syncretistic faith.
    • "Fear of Difference", which fascism seeks to exploit and exacerbate, often in the form of racism or an appeal against foreigners and immigrants.
    • "Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class", fearing economic pressure from the demands and aspirations of lower social groups.
    • "Obsession with a Plot" and the hyping-up of an enemy threat. This often combines an appeal to xenophobia with a fear of disloyalty and sabotage from marginalized groups living within the society (such as the German elite's 'fear' of the 1930s Jewish populace's businesses and well-doings; see also anti-Semitism). Eco also cites Pat Robertson's book The New World Order as a prominent example of a plot obsession.
    • Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak." On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.
    • "Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy" because "Life is Permanent Warfare" – there must always be an enemy to fight. Both fascist Germany under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini worked first to organize and clean up their respective countries and then build the war machines that they later intended to and did use, despite Germany being under restrictions of the Versailles treaty to NOT build a military force. This principle leads to a fundamental contradiction within fascism: the incompatibility of ultimate triumph with perpetual war.
    • "Contempt for the Weak", which is uncomfortably married to a chauvinistic popular elitism, in which every member of society is superior to outsiders by virtue of belonging to the in-group. Eco sees in these attitudes the root of a deep tension in the fundamentally hierarchical structure of fascist polities, as they encourage leaders to despise their underlings, up to the ultimate Leader who holds the whole country in contempt for having allowed him to overtake it by force.
    • "Everybody is Educated to Become a Hero", which leads to the embrace of a cult of death. As Eco observes, "[t]he Ur-Fascist hero is impatient to die. In his impatience, he more frequently sends other people to death."
    • "Machismo", which sublimates the difficult work of permanent war and heroism into the sexual sphere. Fascists thus hold "both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality."
    • "Selective Populism" – The People, conceived monolithically, have a Common Will, distinct from and superior to the viewpoint of any individual. As no mass of people can ever be truly unanimous, the Leader holds himself out as the interpreter of the popular will (though truly he dictates it). Fascists use this concept to delegitimize democratic institutions they accuse of "no longer represent[ing] the Voice of the People."
    • "Newspeak" – Fascism employs and promotes an impoverished vocabulary in order to limit critical reasoning.
    Mussolini said that fascisim was the merging of state with corporatism, which is exactly what we have here in the uSA!
    Yes, Mussolini did say that but you don't understand what he means by corporatism.
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


    ~Alain de Benoist


  10. #8

    tPF Moderator
    Points: 256,594, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.6%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsOverdrive
    Common's Avatar tPF Moderator
    Karma
    323587
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Posts
    45,390
    Points
    256,594
    Level
    100
    Thanks Given
    1,212
    Thanked 2,789x in 1,671 Posts
    Mentioned
    55 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I have an idea!

    I'm gonna Google "trump supporters are dumb" and start posting those videos as if the represent all trump supoorters!

    That sounds like fun, huh?
    Sometimes you sound like a child who didnt get a cookie

    These antifa protest as anti FASCISTS its reasonable to ask them what fascism is and if they cant describe what exactly they are protesting then they are dumb asswipes.

    You googling trump supporters are dumb isnt even remotely the same
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

    GROUCHO MARX,

  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Common For This Useful Post:

    Captdon (01-09-2018),resister (01-09-2018)

  12. #9
    Points: 96,993, Level: 75
    Level completed: 87%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 10.0%
    Achievements:
    Social50000 Experience PointsVeteran
    Crepitus's Avatar Senior Member
    Karma
    1253560
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    Wichita, KS
    Posts
    35,331
    Points
    96,993
    Level
    75
    Thanks Given
    15,796
    Thanked 11,785x in 8,561 Posts
    Mentioned
    409 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Sometimes you sound like a child who didnt get a cookie

    These antifa protest as anti FASCISTS its reasonable to ask them what fascism is and if they cant describe what exactly they are protesting then they are dumb asswipes.

    You googling trump supporters are dumb isnt even remotely the same
    Actually it's exactly the same. I would imagine most anti-fascists do know what fascism is, just like most trump supporters know he isn't the most trustworthy fella and most Obama supporters knew nobody was gonna give them free gas.

    But if you look for it you can find information that supports each one of those. Furthermore you could actually get the impression that everyone in each of those groups believed it.
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

  13. #10
    Points: 68,393, Level: 63
    Level completed: 84%, Points required for next Level: 357
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveSocial50000 Experience Points1 year registered
    resister's Avatar Banned
    Karma
    153995
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    Arcadia Fl
    Posts
    29,321
    Points
    68,393
    Level
    63
    Thanks Given
    23,069
    Thanked 9,976x in 7,546 Posts
    Mentioned
    261 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    I have an idea!

    I'm gonna Google "trump supporters are dumb" and start posting those videos as if the represent all trump supoorters!

    That sounds like fun, huh?
    Are you antifa? Why do you read past what is said and add too it to suite your mistaken point?

+ Reply to Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts


Critical Acclaim
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO