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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Except, in fact, we don't go at it. Who will post opinion A, I will address her opinion A and counter with opinion B, and then Who will quote me and reply with opinion C having nothing whatsoever to do with either her opinio A or my opinion B. It may look like a discussion but isn't. As of late I have pushed her back to A and B and she gets irritated.

    Perhaps she's French because French rhetoric has that roundabout style and opposed to the more straightforward British and American style.

    (Please, I am talking about posting style and not her personally. Unlike her who when she gets irritated attacks personally.)

    ((And as I post this I wonder again why a town hall keeps drifting into talking about members.))
    Because people refuse to quit. You certainly didn’t have to make this post.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Except, in fact, we don't go at it. Who will post opinion A, I will address her opinion A and counter with opinion B, and then Who will quote me and reply with opinion C having nothing whatsoever to do with either her opinio A or my opinion B. It may look like a discussion but isn't. As of late I have pushed her back to A and B and she gets irritated.

    Perhaps she's French because French rhetoric has that roundabout style and opposed to the more straightforward British and American style.

    (Please, I am talking about posting style and not her personally. Unlike her who when she gets irritated attacks personally.)

    ((And as I post this I wonder again why a town hall keeps drifting into talking about members.))
    Because people refuse to quit. You certainly didnít have to make this post.
    "We were taught under the old ethic that man's business on this earth was to look out for himself. That was the ethic of the jungle; the ethic of the wild beast. Take care of yourself, no matter what may become of your fellow man. Yes, I am my brother's keeper. I am under a moral obligation to him that is inspired, not by any maudlin sentimentality, but by the higher duty I owe to myself."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), American labor leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    We are on the opposite side of every issue. I suggest you post topics that you are passionate about. I am the only one I know that likes to eat oatmeal. Don't post oatmeal.
    I like hot oatmeal with milk and sugar.
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    with the blood of patriots and tyrants. "
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    Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Use more white space.
    Summarize. Make your own points. I will engage. Isn't that the point?
    Yeah, no more than 2 sentences before hitting return an extra time.
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    I would like to see the advisors, mods, and @ADMIN talk and work on defining off-topic trolling and how to moderate it equally across the board. As well as explaining how one member is threadbanned for talking about a member after a warning was issued, but two additional members engaged in the same act are not (yea, I’m pretty sure it was reported). At the moment, the current metric isn’t close to passing the sniff test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    I would like to take a second to offer a few words about our mods. They aren't perfect, I'm not trying to say that, but they are offering a service to this forum FREE OF CHARGE. I was a moderator here and lasted less than two months. The stress was absolutely more than I could handle coupled with the normal stresses of my every day life. I can't think of anyone, anyone at all, who would actually want to moderate this board the way it currently is. People hardly want to post here any more for gosh sakes. But still these four do it, and don't $#@! about what an absolute thankless job it is. I personally would have jumped ship a long time ago if I were any one of them. All they get is griping and complaining. There are things that could be done differently moderation wise that would probably help the board, we all have our opinions on that. I just think that we should offer our opinions in a little more of a constructive manner, without the unnecessary personal attacks.
    Same here, I appreciate what the mods do voluntarily and just try to offer suggestions to their process so things improve. Those suggestions may be good or bad all things considered. My only complain is that for many THs now no suggestion has had any feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Same here, I appreciate what the mods do voluntarily and just try to offer suggestions to their process so things improve. Those suggestions may be good or bad all things considered. My only complain is that for many THs now no suggestion has had any feedback.
    Understood. Hopefully we can get the mods to chime in at some point to let us know where they stand on some of these hot button moderation issues. Unfortunately, no matter what they say, they are going to get attacked so they are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    No. It's just that you seem to generally misunderstand or misconstrue what I am saying and when I try a different way of explaining, you invariably conclude it is an alternate opinion. It's all related, but we are incapable of communicating with any clarity. FYI you make plenty of personal remarks. You just don't recognize them as such and then wonder why I become irritated. I can only conclude that you are from Mars and I am from Venus and there is a fundamental language barrier.
    BS, Who, if I did misconstrue your words then it is in your interested to reply and address the misunderstanding. I recall very few cases where you have done that.

    No, I'm not talking about alternative opinions, that would be great. I'm talking about replying to someone in a post that has nothing whatsoever to what you quote. --If it's related it's up to you to relate it.

    No, I do not make personal remarks. I might point out the source of your opinion is Marxist and you take that political comment personally--I can't help that. You do get personal, quite often.


    Note that we are discussing this because you took it upon yourself to talk about others and yourself in a Town Hall where we're not supposed to do that.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Because people refuse to quit. You certainly didn’t have to make this post.
    I do need to because Advisors are not doing their job and reporting it so mods start TBing those who refuse to quit talking about other members and, worse, about themselves.

    Not controlling the TH is just as bad as members never getting any feedback on their suggestions and criticisms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    Because people refuse to quit. You certainly didnít have to make this post.
    I do need to because Advisors are not doing their job and reporting it so mods start TBing those who refuse to quit talking about other members and, worse, about themselves.

    Not controlling the TH is just as bad as members never getting any feedback on their suggestions and criticisms.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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