Climate Change Is Turning Green Sea Turtles Female. That’s a Problem

[Kacper]

Having more females is not a bad thing unless most of them can't find a mating partner.

They will roll with the punches or they will disappear. I am more amoral on such things I suppose. This planet is hospitable to life itself and nature adapts. I do not believe there is a right form of life and life will adapt to whatever exists as life has flourished in far more in inhospitable conditions than exist today. The changing planet will drive evolution, and that change can be the result of species disappearing creating room for something new or existing species adapting/evolving with the changing conditions.

[Dr. Who]

It's a pure wonder they managed to survive millions of years of temperature swings and cycles.

They fortunately move around and if they do get beyond the tasty bite stage, they live a very long time. However, the ocean is not as forgiving as it used to be, what with all of the pollutants, so these temperature changes could have a more permanent consequences than it might have when the oceans were clean.

[Dr. Who]

They will roll with the punches or they will disappear. I am more amoral on such things I suppose. This planet is hospitable to life itself and nature adapts. I do not believe there is a right form of life and life will adapt to whatever exists as life has flourished in far more in inhospitable conditions than exist today. The changing planet will drive evolution, and that change can be the result of species disappearing creating room for something new or existing species adapting/evolving with the changing conditions.

If climate were the only challenge I might agree, but the oceans are not hospitable to life as they used to be. We have been dumping chemicals and plastics into the ocean for some time now and it's showing up in the ocean life and making some of the apex species highly chemically contaminated.

[Kacper]

If climate were the only challenge I might agree, but the oceans are not hospitable to life as they used to be. We have been dumping chemicals and plastics into the ocean for some time now and it's showing up in the ocean life and making some of the apex species highly chemically contaminated.

But wouldn't a sea turtle saying, "Screw this, I am a new land-based turtle" be the same thing? I doubt much of evolution/adaptation would have occurred if it weren't for the need to find better conditions. I am not saying, "Pollute away" by any stretch of the imagination. I just am optimistic life will continue on this rock with or without the sea turtle or the humans or the spotted owl so I don't get as upset or nihilistic about it all.

[Crepitus]

Or they extend ranges into different areas. Perhaps in seas near the Saharra, it recently snowed there, a first in recorded history(IIRC)

Not even close. 3 times in the last 40 years.

[Dr. Who]

But wouldn't a sea turtle saying, "Screw this, I am a new land-based turtle" be the same thing? I doubt much of evolution/adaptation would have occurred if it weren't for the need to find better conditions. I am not saying, "Pollute away" by any stretch of the imagination. I just am optimistic life will continue on this rock with or without the sea turtle or the humans or the spotted owl so I don't get as upset or nihilistic about it all.

I'm in the don't destroy the environment camp. There is no reason to dump your crap in the ocean, other than laziness and greed. I get that planetary cycles will affect species, some negatively. We don't need to be an additional factor in the demise of species.

[Kacper]

I'm in the don't destroy the environment camp. There is no reason to dump your crap in the ocean, other than laziness and greed. I get that planetary cycles will affect species, some negatively. We don't need to be an additional factor in the demise of species.

For all its faults, I do applaud China for taking an eat the predator attitude toward the oceans. Those folks are pragmatic enough that, "Hey if there are jellyfish everywhere, then we are eating jellyfish" works for them.

[Dr. Who]

For all its faults, I do applaud China for taking an eat the predator attitude toward the oceans. Those folks are pragmatic enough that, "Hey if there are jellyfish everywhere, then we are eating jellyfish" works for them.

I'm not down with their trawling habits.

[resister]

Not even close. 3 times in the last 40 years.

link? So much for glo-bull warming.

[Kacper]

I'm not down with their trawling habits.

The Japanese are far worse offenders, especially when it comes to harvesting animals for pointless "medicinal" value like shark fin soup, etc. On the plus side, commercial fish farming is becoming so dialed in that it at least presents hope that some day wild-caught will be an insignificant source for seafood. I live a few hundred miles from the ocean and we have local-raised prawns available, for instance.