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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Trump's popularity hovers at 40% or less. Usually less. A new Quinnipiac poll shows that 57% of Americans feel Trump is not fit to hold the office of President of The United States. That is a sizable majority.
    Rasmussen had him at 46% yesterday. Unfit? C'mon man, that's an unfit statement driven by politics. Which Quinnipiac poll? The one of Harvard Psychologists named Lee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Trump's popularity hovers at 40% or less. Usually less.

    A new Quinnipiac poll shows that 57% of Americans feel Trump is not fit to hold the office of President of The United States. That is a sizable majority.
    And they will just need to deal with it, get over it and move on with life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Polls don't set policy, elections do. Try winning some instead of whining about your political impotence.
    We are not required to keep an incompetent , idiot, bigot in office. All that is required is courage on the part of the elected representatives.
    "Trumpís say-so is meaningless. Not only is he a person who makes factual misstatements and lies, but heís a person who has gotten ahead in life through extensive use of bullshit, leaving in his wake a trail of broken promises."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    We are not required to keep an incompetent , idiot, bigot in office.
    But we allowed him to stay from 2009-2016 anyways.
    "An army, great in space, may offer opposition in a brief span of time.
    One man, brief in space, must spread his opposition
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    We are not required to keep an incompetent , idiot, bigot in office. All that is required is courage on the part of the elected representatives.
    1. Where is the high crime and misdemeanor?
    2. How is he unfit? (Note: I 'get' you don't like him but this requires a clinical diagnosis not a 'I don't like or agree with him') You will have a civil war otherwise.
    3. Please remember that the R's have a habit of taking the D's shenanigans and quadrupling down on them. Do you really want to go down this path -- of impeaching or removing as "unfit" a president merely b/c you don't like him? I can almost assure you the R's will make it the mission from now until the end of time to do the very same thing to every D President. This will destroy the Republic -- maybe that's the plan anyways, I don't know. You lost. Move on. He's not unfit. He's not committed a high crime nor misdemeanor. When Chairman Maobama was elected, we worked hard to take the states and congress. You should be doing that. The people outside the pretty elite liberal coffee-house enclaves see this for what it is -- regardless of how many times CNN tells us he's unfit. Why? Because we all have an uncle or grandfather just like him -- that gets things done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    He does seem to be his own worst spokesperson.

    The overall point is important though. When allies and other key world leaders start to make decisions for the purpose of doing the opposite of the US President then it could have unfortunate consequences.
    That will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-trump-effect-in-reverse.html

    This is interesting:
    President Trumpís effort to bar many Muslims from entering the United States may have actually caused public opinion to shift towards Muslims in general ó just not in the direction the president likely intended.

    Many Americans who once supported or remained neutral on Trumpís travel ban have altered their stance, according to a new report in Political Behavior. The study, authored by political scientists Loren Collingwood, Nazita Lajevardi, and Kassra A.R. Oskooii, surveyed 423 people prior to the first iteration of the ban, which targeted all refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority nations.

    When surveyed again a week later, many of the same respondents seemed to have changed their minds. Around 30 percent said they felt more negatively towards the legislation than they had prior to its introduction, with many of those showing the biggest shift also describing their U.S. nationality as a major component of their identity.

    Thatís a notable turn of events, one that indicates the Trump administrationís hardline efforts to target immigrants ó especially Muslim immigrants ó could be backfiring.
    Around 30 - 40% of Americans are racists just like Trump.That seems pretty clear. But I still think most Americans like the idea of the America being a nation of people from all over the world. It's our national mythos, even though we've always had this nativist strain and for centuries treated new immigrants like dirt until they assimilated and they did the same. But at least since the middle of the last century, pride in the American melting pot and our immigrant character has been something that kids were taught in school in the same we they're taught that we believe in freedom and liberty. It may not be true, but it's an ideal that people like to believe is true.

    Trump is making Americans hate their own country.
    Funny, the left has been defending open borders for terrorists for some time.

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    Not another Trump bashing thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-trump-effect-in-reverse.html

    This is interesting:
    President Trumpís effort to bar many Muslims from entering the United States may have actually caused public opinion to shift towards Muslims in general ó just not in the direction the president likely intended.

    Many Americans who once supported or remained neutral on Trumpís travel ban have altered their stance, according to a new report in Political Behavior. The study, authored by political scientists Loren Collingwood, Nazita Lajevardi, and Kassra A.R. Oskooii, surveyed 423 people prior to the first iteration of the ban, which targeted all refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority nations.

    When surveyed again a week later, many of the same respondents seemed to have changed their minds. Around 30 percent said they felt more negatively towards the legislation than they had prior to its introduction, with many of those showing the biggest shift also describing their U.S. nationality as a major component of their identity.

    Thatís a notable turn of events, one that indicates the Trump administrationís hardline efforts to target immigrants ó especially Muslim immigrants ó could be backfiring.
    Around 30 - 40% of Americans are racists just like Trump.That seems pretty clear. But I still think most Americans like the idea of the America being a nation of people from all over the world. It's our national mythos, even though we've always had this nativist strain and for centuries treated new immigrants like dirt until they assimilated and they did the same. But at least since the middle of the last century, pride in the American melting pot and our immigrant character has been something that kids were taught in school in the same we they're taught that we believe in freedom and liberty. It may not be true, but it's an ideal that people like to believe is true.

    Trump is making Americans hate their own country.
    So wait. People hate America because we are banning people from places where we tend to kill and piss people off from entering our country?
    The ignorant often accuse me of hating my country because they are unable to differentiate country from government. Many Americans love their country but seriously ( and rightly so) distrust their government. Perhaps these "haters" you describe are in that category instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    We are not required to keep an incompetent , idiot, bigot in office. All that is required is courage on the part of the elected representatives.
    Democrats tried a coup. I hope we catch, indict, try, convict and execute the coup plotters.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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