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    Trump Is Making Americans Hate Their Own Country

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-trump-effect-in-reverse.html

    This is interesting:

    President Trump’s effort to bar many Muslims from entering the United States may have actually caused public opinion to shift towards Muslims in general — just not in the direction the president likely intended.

    Many Americans who once supported or remained neutral on Trump’s travel ban have altered their stance, according to a new report in Political Behavior. The study, authored by political scientists Loren Collingwood, Nazita Lajevardi, and Kassra A.R. Oskooii, surveyed 423 people prior to the first iteration of the ban, which targeted all refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority nations.

    When surveyed again a week later, many of the same respondents seemed to have changed their minds. Around 30 percent said they felt more negatively towards the legislation than they had prior to its introduction, with many of those showing the biggest shift also describing their U.S. nationality as a major component of their identity.

    That’s a notable turn of events, one that indicates the Trump administration’s hardline efforts to target immigrants — especially Muslim immigrants — could be backfiring.
    Around 30 - 40% of Americans are racists just like Trump.That seems pretty clear. But I still think most Americans like the idea of the America being a nation of people from all over the world. It's our national mythos, even though we've always had this nativist strain and for centuries treated new immigrants like dirt until they assimilated and they did the same. But at least since the middle of the last century, pride in the American melting pot and our immigrant character has been something that kids were taught in school in the same we they're taught that we believe in freedom and liberty. It may not be true, but it's an ideal that people like to believe is true.

    Trump is making Americans hate their own country.
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    I have noticed what seems to be more sympathy for Muslims in national dialogue since Trump took office.

    People realize that whatever he wants is wrong. Just do the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    I have noticed what seems to be more sympathy for Muslims in national dialogue since Trump took office.

    People realize that whatever he wants is wrong. Just do the opposite.
    He does seem to be his own worst spokesperson.

    The overall point is important though. When allies and other key world leaders start to make decisions for the purpose of doing the opposite of the US President then it could have unfortunate consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    He does seem to be his own worst spokesperson.

    The overall point is important though. When allies and other key world leaders start to make decisions for the purpose of doing the opposite of the US President then it could have unfortunate consequences.
    No one does that. Every leader does what he/she thinks is best for their countries. Nobody gets into a personal snit. National leaders don't act that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    No one does that. Every leader does what he/she thinks is best for their countries. Nobody gets into a personal snit. National leaders don't act that way.
    Nobody? Did you overlook Agent Orange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Nobody? Did you overlook Agent Orange?
    No national leader acts on personals snits. The idea is absurd. Everyone acts on their national interest. Trump acts on America First. I don't know what liberals think the national interest is. Negotiations are never personal. Everyone wants what they want and has nothing to do with personalities.

    If Trump acted on his personal interest we would stop money for NATO and the UN. We haven't because they still serve some interest for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Nobody? Did you overlook Agent Orange?
    He is looking out for the national interest of the US. All negoiations are the same. There is nothing personal. You let TDS blind you to reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    He does seem to be his own worst spokesperson.

    The overall point is important though. When allies and other key world leaders start to make decisions for the purpose of doing the opposite of the US President then it could have unfortunate consequences.
    Trish, of course you are 100% correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    He does seem to be his own worst spokesperson.

    The overall point is important though. When allies and other key world leaders start to make decisions for the purpose of doing the opposite of the US President then it could have unfortunate consequences.
    That will never happen.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    I have noticed what seems to be more sympathy for Muslims in national dialogue since Trump took office. People realize that whatever he wants is wrong. Just do the opposite.
    You must run in a very small circle. What is happening that the left is not looking at is recovery in the fly over country.

    They are very comfortable in their bastions of Hate on the coasts. but the left has always had a terrible hatred for people that actually do Love the USA and want to see it put first.

    So how are you going to carry states that finally gave up on you, when Trumps policies are putting thousands and thousands of people back to work in these states Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin could very well be lost to the Democrats for a long time.

    It is likely that they left will run on repealing the tax cuts and adding regulations. They are going to be asking a lot of people to be butting themselves out of a job.

    Like always the left truly believes that the lies that they tell are treated a the truth, but that is not happening anymore. Even POC which the left has worked tirelessly to keep on government dependency, are starting to figure out that they really don't have a plan for them to have a better life.

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