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    Quote Originally Posted by resister View Post
    It rivals the thread "Hillary Clinton is a corruption free, decent person" for top spot for most ridiculous thread title ever!
    That one can never be topped. It's in a class by itself. It should be bumped every day simply for comedic reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2018/01/the-trump-effect-in-reverse.html

    This is interesting:
    President Trump’s effort to bar many Muslims from entering the United States may have actually caused public opinion to shift towards Muslims in general — just not in the direction the president likely intended.

    Many Americans who once supported or remained neutral on Trump’s travel ban have altered their stance, according to a new report in Political Behavior. The study, authored by political scientists Loren Collingwood, Nazita Lajevardi, and Kassra A.R. Oskooii, surveyed 423 people prior to the first iteration of the ban, which targeted all refugees and citizens from seven Muslim-majority nations.

    When surveyed again a week later, many of the same respondents seemed to have changed their minds. Around 30 percent said they felt more negatively towards the legislation than they had prior to its introduction, with many of those showing the biggest shift also describing their U.S. nationality as a major component of their identity.

    That’s a notable turn of events, one that indicates the Trump administration’s hardline efforts to target immigrants — especially Muslim immigrants — could be backfiring.
    Around 30 - 40% of Americans are racists just like Trump.That seems pretty clear. But I still think most Americans like the idea of the America being a nation of people from all over the world. It's our national mythos, even though we've always had this nativist strain and for centuries treated new immigrants like dirt until they assimilated and they did the same. But at least since the middle of the last century, pride in the American melting pot and our immigrant character has been something that kids were taught in school in the same we they're taught that we believe in freedom and liberty. It may not be true, but it's an ideal that people like to believe is true.

    Trump is making Americans hate their own country.
    I don't believe all of your pessimism is warranted. I heard part of his latest town-hall-meeting speech yesterday and the crowd went wild at the mention of all the accomplishments of his first year in office. I didn't hear the whole speech but I think the main theme was the tax cut legislation and the economy. The economy, in short, is on the verge of a massive boom. And that's the reason Republicans will come out ahead in coming elections.


    But you're welcome to try distracting people with talk about muslims and other immigrants. (That's a loser.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove View Post
    Nobody? Did you overlook Agent Orange?
    He is looking out for the national interest of the US. All negoiations are the same. There is nothing personal. You let TDS blind you to reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Good for you, but you don't own any more than you did a year ago as far as it goes.
    Except 20% more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I wouldn't know how much richer you allege you are (though I consider that amount suspect unless you were starting off with little to begin with) and you seem to ignore the part about the median income already rising before he took office or even was elected. I guess if several large plants are opening or expanding is enough evidence, then I will point out than many are going in the other direction. Funny how you missed that. Ask them Carrier employees about Trump saving their jobs....
    Allege nothing. I don't live above my means. I put a bit away for 50 years. I bought some good stock and they did well. Maybe you should try it.

    Carrier lost 200 jobs while Apple is bringing back 350 billion dollars and looking for 25,000 new workers. That's the way it has always worked and always will. I know President Trump just galls you but that's tour problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Except 20% more money.
    Except not. IIRC they haven't cashed out

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