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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Ignoring the word games, I'll address:
    Ignoring your false allegation is very charitable of yourself



    Who is forcing women to have babies?
    The GOP sure is trying

    Dems are the warmongers.
    Some are

    Public benefits are a great way to keep people trapped in poverty.
    So is corporatism in public policy, but if the GOP wanted to soften the transition off public benefits and into the jobs market, nothing prevents them from doing it as they control both houses and the White house, but I don't see them creating off-ramps so much as trying to move up the cliffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    I am not a democrat, but republicans support vouchers for the benefit of christian zealots who want their kids in zealotry indoctrination schools; a single mom hasn't had her job as a migrant lettuce picker stolen that I have ever heard of, whether or not a regulation is needed is subjective, and if workfare worked why is worker participation rates sliding? I don't have the precise numbers in front of me but it seems like black participation rates have declined somewhere around 6 points in the last couple decades.
    No you are right it is not the single mom that is having that job taken from her? It is her kid that once went out and made extra money to but the things that he or she liked and that took economic pressure off the family.

    And why does it have to be a Christian School there are lots of good public schools that those that don't want a Christian educations could choose as well as Charter schools backed by State Universities. And for those that want there children to have a Christian, or Muslim, or Budist education, what is wrong with them choosing that for their children? Are you saying that the Government can better choose for a family.

    Add to this that public schools that were not educating the children would be out of business soon. Teachers would be the first to understand that and the improvement from day one would be dramatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Ignoring your false allegation is very charitable of yourselfThe GOP sure is trying
    Some are
    So is corporatism in public policy, but if the GOP wanted to soften the transition off public benefits and into the jobs market, nothing prevents them from doing it as they control both houses and the White house, but I don't see them creating off-ramps so much as trying to move up the cliffs.
    I don't know of any conservatives that oppose adoption. so they are certainly not forcing them to keep and unwanted child.

    And the GOP did just create a huge off ramp. The tax cut should bring hundreds of thousands of new jobs back to the USA.

    Stopping illegal immigration will drive up wages and give the Youth and starting workers a place to get a job.

    That is what is needed and that is what the left has been fighting for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Ignoring your false allegation is very charitable of yourself





    The GOP sure is trying



    Some are



    So is corporatism in public policy, but if the GOP wanted to soften the transition off public benefits and into the jobs market, nothing prevents them from doing it as they control both houses and the White house, but I don't see them creating off-ramps so much as trying to move up the cliffs.

    Ignoring your false allegation is very charitable of yourself
    At this point, what are you even talking about?


    The GOP sure is trying
    So the GOP is standing around forcing women to have sex? That is, you know, how women have babies.

    I suppose you could say the government $#@!s us all over.

    So is corporatism in public policy...
    Corporate welfare keeps those corporations the government favors rich and other in "poverty" or out of business.

    if the GOP wanted to soften the transition off public benefits and into the jobs market, nothing prevents them from doing it
    See Trump administration opens door to states imposing Medicaid work requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcfieldz View Post
    The facts speak for themselves.
    The only thing in common with the parties of the XIX century and today parties are that they share the same name. But the parties and ideologies are absolutely different. During the XX century what before were the Democrats they became Republican and what were Republican went to the Democrat party. They reversed their papers. And the ones that played the racist card in the XIX century, in the XXI century play the equalitarian card. It is nothing else than a paper, a theatre that both parties do.

    And I remember you that ideologically the Republican Party of that period would be labelled by today Republicans as a Communist Party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    The only thing in common with the parties of the XIX century and today parties are that they share the same name. But the parties and ideologies are absolutely different. During the XX century what before were the Democrats they became Republican and what were Republican went to the Democrat party. They reversed their papers. And the ones that played the racist card in the XIX century, in the XXI century play the equalitarian card. It is nothing else than a paper, a theatre that both parties do.

    And I remember you that ideologically the Republican Party of that period would be labelled by today Republicans as a Communist Party.
    what before were the Democrats they became Republican and what were Republican went to the Democrat party
    Now isn't that a convenient truth. With it you can associate all that's good with Dems and bad with Reps. If someone points out a historical fact the Dems were bad, you just have to say that was before the Great Political Pirouette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Now isn't that a convenient truth. With it you can associate all that's good with Dems and bad with Reps. If someone points out a historical fact the Dems were bad, you just have to say that was before the Great Political Pirouette.
    What I am pointing is that both are equally bad. And both don't respect their own core values as they change it as much as you change your pair of shoes.

    The argument, is that they are trying to say that Democrats are racist, and is a partial truth as if I say that Republicans are Socialist, both parties in the past this affirmation would be true, if I said this 200 years ago. But today one takes the most conservative view and more classist and racist and the other don't.

    Is funny how you use past ideas to defend something that neither of them defend anymore. That is pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    What I am pointing is that both are equally bad. And both don't respect their own core values as they change it as much as you change your pair of shoes.

    The argument, is that they are trying to say that Democrats are racist, and is a partial truth as if I say that Republicans are Socialist, both parties in the past this affirmation would be true, if I said this 200 years ago. But today one takes the most conservative view and more classist and racist and the other don't.

    Is funny how you use past ideas to defend something that neither of them defend anymore. That is pointless.

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    I certainly didn't get both are bad out of what you posted.

    So now you're saying in the past Dems were racist and now Reps are. Examples?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Historically, the conservative movement, from its inception in the 1950s, has always pushed racist away, ostracized them. That's conservatives, not the Reps. But, historically, generally speaking, Swain is correct about Reps and Dems.

    That is true of conservatives. Being a Republican no longer means one is a conservative.



    My beef with the Republican party is simple. At one time they were the home for conservatives. That has gradually changed. In an attemp to gain the acceptance of the media, they have slowly drifted to the left and abandoned most conservative principles.

    They are now proponents of big government. The only real difference now between them and Democrats is that Republicans belueve they can manage big government more efficiently.

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