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Thread: Zinke Pushes Majority Of National Park Service Advisory Panel To Resign

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Since the Constitution offers no authority for the Federal government to "own" national parks, what should be done with them?
    It doesn't say anything so the national government has as good a claim as the states. There is no doubt that, outside some here, people want the feds to own the land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    It doesn't say anything so the national government has as good a claim as the states. There is no doubt that, outside some here, people want the feds to own the land.
    The Constitution does speak to this: See the 9th and 10th Amendments.

    The federal government is suppose to have limited and enumerated powers. Everything else is left to the States and to the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    I believe it was written in the Constitution that when the National Park Service Advisory Board resigns, the entire country would be destroyed. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!11!!!11!!!
    Yes, I see your point but don't you think meeting with them or speaking with them via t-con would have been the proper thing to do. Hold a meeting and let them know you don't view their services as valuable and that you will not be working with them. To ignore them is the highest form of disrespect, imo. I would also just remind people that even though some may not view our park services as special, other citizens do think it's important and the board represented their views. This is another example of how this administration only seems to care about their base and not all Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    Yes, I see your point but don't you think meeting with them or speaking with them via t-con would have been the proper thing to do.
    "Proper" is a matter of opinion. I think the very existence of of these types of federal bureaucracies is improper when adhering to the limitations of federal government outlined in the Constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    "Proper" is a matter of opinion. I think the very existence of of these types of federal bureaucracies is improper when adhering to the limitations of federal government outlined in the Constitution.
    They are private citizens not govt employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    It doesn't say anything so the national government has as good a claim as the states. There is no doubt that, outside some here, people want the feds to own the land.
    Nope. Article 1 Section 8 clause 17 identifies what lands the Feds may own with approval by the State. Parks is not a category.

    "and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings"
    So what should we do with the parks? Give them to the states? Sell them to the highest bidder?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    They are private citizens not govt employees.
    Actually, they are designated as SGEs (special government employees).
    https://www.nps.gov/policy/NPSAB_2015_Charter.pdf
    Last edited by Kalkin; 01-18-2018 at 10:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalkin View Post
    Are they getting paid?
    My understanding is that the board is an unpaid volunteer position.

    I can tell you the Agency I work for has many Advisory committees that consist of external experts in their field who participate voluntarily. None are paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    My understanding is that the board is an unpaid volunteer position.

    I can tell you the Agency I work for has many Advisory committees that consist of external experts in their field who participate voluntarily. None are paid.
    I looked it up and changed my post. They are SGEs, special government employees. They do receive compensation on a per diem basis when they are acting in an official government capacity. See my previous link to their charter.
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    Advisors may be eligible to receive reimbursement at the approved government per diem as you noted but they are not paid. Those are two different distinctions. Some are brought in under the designation SGE in order to put them in the system during their tenure.

    More importantly these men and women volunteered to be on this board. The very least Mr. Zinke could have done was thank them for their service and sent them on their way. Imo, he seems to lack character.

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