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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    You make some really valid points that are quite easily backed up so I agree 100%. I just wish we'd start framing our discussions without assigning bla
    me or going out of our way to insult others. We'd probably be able to come together more and find solutions.
    Trish, I would love to say that we should not assign blame, but we are in this fight in our area as I am writing this.

    And there is a political faction that is highly invested in these policies because it all but insure a better voting base.

    Wouldn't it be great if we actually did what was best for the kids, no matter the party. but this is a plank that the Left is not willing to compromise on.

    So you have to call them out on this issue. If not, it will never change because they are not accountable to the parents of these children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    "Make America Great Again" is nothing but identity politics and a self-esteem thing. It isn't like we weren't already a big old bowl of warm awesomeness.
    If that is the case you need to tell the party that says that everyone that is not a White Male is a victim in the USA

    Make America Great again was about changing policies that cause other country's to take jobs, from our country. It was about standing up for our beliefs and not taking any crap from these third world countries that are at war with us.

    Far too many Americans did not see a way out of their current situation, but now jobs are starting to return. And Hope is starting to return to main street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    The rich don't work hard...
    . Where did you come up with that one. More often than not they work very hard doing things which are far beyond your ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docthehun View Post
    For what it's worth, my experience with young employees has been just the opposite. After 30 years, I sold my oil change business last July. At the time of the sale, I had seven employees, five of whom, had 10-15 years and I hadn't hired a new kid in almost three years. Not a one has filed for unemployment. I had no theft or attendance problems. I suggest that perhaps a review of how the employees view the organization and why, might be in order. Just sayin'.
    You just said that the employee's that you had not issue with had 10 to 15 years experience in?

    That would make them in their mid to late 30's And you are correct there is little trouble with this generation.

    Had you read my post you would see that I do exit interviews and I feel that is the most important thing.

    And NO offense here but My workers likely make a considerable amount more. though the runners would likely be about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    Unless they are "Mexican-Americans" apparently
    Are you sure???? I don't know of anyone that is saying that Americans of Hispanic decent are a problem?

    I think that you might be confused with those Mexicans that are here illegally and are not Americans at all.

    There is a huge argument on those folks, the Democrats are more concerned about them than they are their own country men and women

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Socialism doesn't work.
    It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If you want to demoralize and dispirit the people, it works great. If you are trying to inspire people to achieve great things, it doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    The rich don't work hard. They buy republicans to remove the taxes they are supposed to pay and given them some of that socialized corporate welfare.http://prospect.org/article/disclosi...porate-welfare
    Talk socialism
    Well You are right Corporations don't do any work, but the people that work for them do.

    I don't know how many wealthy people that you hang with but you are welcome to come and job shadow me in a couple weeks after I return to work with my new knee.

    And YES Nissan I am sure does get many tax advantages? Let me ask you this, if Nissan left and closed there factory? do you think that area would be better or worse off?

    There is a reason that communities choose to give these tax credits to corporations. Because it is better for them in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    . Where did you come up with that one. More often than not they work very hard doing things which are far beyond your ability.
    I think that's a view prevalent up to about 300 years ago. The way society was organized back then, gentlemen were from landed or at least banked families who lived off rents and interest. It was difficult to work your way up to that level--Ben Franklin did.

    There may be some of that remaining today but they are few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    I think that's a view prevalent up to about 300 years ago. The way society was organized back then, gentlemen were from landed or at least banked families who lived off rents and interest. It was difficult to work your way up to that level--Ben Franklin did.

    There may be some of that remaining today but they are few.

    I believe that view is far more prevalent than you think. It appears to me that most progressive or liberal types believe the wealthy fell into their position by winning life's lottery. Class envy is embedded into the modern popular culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    . Where did you come up with that one. More often than not they work very hard doing things which are far beyond your ability.

    The super rich often don't really work They inherit money, have been the boss since they got out of college and make most of their money with tax cheating investmments. There are of course exceptions.. But how many super rich types have a history of real work as in something physical?

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