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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I have been informed by several of our liberal members that rights aren't "real", that they don't "exist". Clearly, then, there is no right to healthcare. It's just something liberals have conjured up out of thin air based on nothing concrete. So why should our society recognize something which liberals claim doesn't exist? Perhaps we should give everyone a right to a unicorn as well?
    Which ones? Natural rights /= Rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Their first response will be to cite "society", but our society hasn't recognized such a right, ergo it does not "exist" according to their own logic.

    Then they will probably try to make appeals to "fairness" or "equality", but then they will have to explain why those things are good or desirable, which undermines their morally relativistic view of the world.

    The fact is, liberals are standing atop moral and intellectual quicksand, flailing wildly about in an attempt to escape a nihilistic, relativistic vortex of their own making.
    You are not representative of the society. Neither the majority of fascists of these forums.

    Yeah, is better a society with inequality where the powerful enslave the rest. Where people don't have nothing to eat, and other people live in abundance with their mansions. Yeah, that is fair.

    Where, people cannot pay a basic treatment for a flu, or they go to bankrupcy because they have some chronic illness and the treatments are so expensive that they cannot afford it, and they have only the option to suffer, economically or phisically or psichologilly. Yeah, do you want arguments, without mentioning rights? Then here you have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Which ones? Natural rights /= Rights
    So the "rights" you believe in are real, but the natural rights I believe in are not real? Why? Because you say so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    You are not representative of the society. Neither the majority of fascists of these forums.
    Healthcare is not a right in American society. That's a fact.

    Yeah, is better a society with inequality where the powerful enslave the rest. Where people don't have nothing to eat, and other people live in abundance with their mansions. Yeah, that is fair.

    Where, people cannot pay a basic treatment for a flu, or they go to bankrupcy because they have some chronic illness and the treatments are so expensive that they cannot afford it, and they have only the option to suffer, economically or phisically or psichologilly. Yeah, do you want arguments, without mentioning rights? Then here you have it.
    Why is it good to have equality? Because you say so? Because it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside? That proves nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Neither the majority of fascists of these forums.
    Fascists are state socialists, just like you. The Nazis were big fans of their nationalized healthcare system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Which ones? Natural rights /= Rights

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    Why did you do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Healthcare is not a right in American society. That's a fact.



    Why is it good to have equality? Because you say so? Because it makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside? That proves nothing.
    Obviously is better the inequality and having people that needs to look for in the trash. Obviously that is a good society.

    I am European and healthcare is a right. I don't care if in your $#@!ty society you like to have people suffer and don't care a $#@! for what happen to your neighbours.

    So, what people defend, is like in other countries healthcare is a right. That some of you don't and we should see how many are infected by the liberal mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Why did you do that?
    Because he is. He uses something that I have said, changes what I meant to his own purpose, and then he creates a thread based in a pure distortion of what have said to troll an opinion that even he did not understand. So yeah, troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    Because he is. He uses something that I have said, changes what I meant to his own purpose, and then he creates a thread based in a pure distortion of what have said to troll an opinion that even he did not understand. So yeah, troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    You are not representative of the society. Neither the majority of fascists of these forums.

    Yeah, is better a society with inequality where the powerful enslave the rest. Where people don't have nothing to eat, and other people live in abundance with their mansions. Yeah, that is fair.

    Where, people cannot pay a basic treatment for a flu, or they go to bankrupcy because they have some chronic illness and the treatments are so expensive that they cannot afford it, and they have only the option to suffer, economically or phisically or psichologilly. Yeah, do you want arguments, without mentioning rights? Then here you have it.
    Where do you get the idea that life is fair. I didn't work so some freeloader could live off my taxes. There is the entire modern liberalism you represent.

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