There Is No Right to Healthcare

[Captdon]

Obviously is better the inequality and having people that needs to look for in the trash. Obviously that is a good society.

I am European and healthcare is a right. I don't care if in your $#@!ty society you like to have people suffer and don't care a $#@! for what happen to your neighbours.

So, what people defend, is like in other countries healthcare is a right. That some of you don't and we should see how many are infected by the liberal mindset.

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You don't live here so don't talk about rights we have. in fact, F*** off.

[Peter1469]

You are not representative of the society. Neither the majority of fascists of these forums.

Yeah, is better a society with inequality where the powerful enslave the rest. Where people don't have nothing to eat, and other people live in abundance with their mansions. Yeah, that is fair.

Where, people cannot pay a basic treatment for a flu, or they go to bankrupcy because they have some chronic illness and the treatments are so expensive that they cannot afford it, and they have only the option to suffer, economically or phisically or psichologilly. Yeah, do you want arguments, without mentioning rights? Then here you have it.

There are fascists on this forum?

[Tahuyaman]

If you think health care is a right, walk into a doctor’s office and demand your right to receive care be granted on demand.

[resister]

If you think health care is a right, walk into a doctor’s office and demand your right to receive care be granted on demand.

You can get some "care" in the county lockup!

[Tahuyaman]

You can get some "care" in the county lockup!

That is true. There's an operation called Con-Med. High quality care. One can also walk into an emergency room, but you're not going to get the treatment you think it is your right to receive.

[kilgram]

You don't live here so don't talk about rights we have. in fact, F*** off.

If you write $#@! off, please $#@!ing write it without censorship. There ss no more nonsense that the American stupidity to censor some words.

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[Green Arrow]

You don't live here so don't talk about rights we have. in fact, F*** off.

Members of foreign countries have just as much right to post here as you do.

[Ravens Fan]

You don't live here so don't talk about rights we have. in fact, F*** off.

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[Dr. Who]

I have been informed by several of our liberal members that rights aren't "real", that they don't "exist". Clearly, then, there is no right to healthcare. It's just something liberals have conjured up out of thin air based on nothing concrete. So why should our society recognize something which liberals claim doesn't exist? Perhaps we should give everyone a right to a unicorn as well?

I believe that the liberal point of view is that human rights are the product of logic and reason and are dependant on individual societies to recognize or ignore. Since by definition, healthcare is arguably a positive right, it derives from societal demand, although one could argue that the preservation of life is also a natural right.

[Chris]

I think health is a right, not sure if it's subsumed under the right to life or pursuit of happiness. Just as we have a right to life no one has a right to deprive us of it, and similarly with health. But just like I would want another to live my life or tell me how to live it, I wouldn't want another to dictate or even provide for my health--it's up to me to decide how much I value that and pursue it accordingly. I also don't mind helping people, but not through coercion and central planners deciding.