There Is No Right to Healthcare

[Ethereal]

I have been informed by several of our liberal members that rights aren't "real", that they don't "exist". Clearly, then, there is no right to healthcare. It's just something liberals have conjured up out of thin air based on nothing concrete. So why should our society recognize something which liberals claim doesn't exist? Perhaps we should give everyone a right to a unicorn as well?

[resister]

A great point you make, I am getting the popcorn ready in anticipation of the twisted logic it will require to "explain" this one. Though I kinda think those same people that made those claims, will studiously avoid this thread like the plague.

[Mister D]

I have to agree. It's trumpeted as a basic human right. What gives?

[Ethereal]

Their first response will be to cite "society", but our society hasn't recognized such a right, ergo it does not "exist" according to their own logic.

Then they will probably try to make appeals to "fairness" or "equality", but then they will have to explain why those things are good or desirable, which undermines their morally relativistic view of the world.

The fact is, liberals are standing atop moral and intellectual quicksand, flailing wildly about in an attempt to escape a nihilistic, relativistic vortex of their own making.

[Tahuyaman]

Ben Shapiro often puts things in terms anyone can understand.

[Tahuyaman]

Clearly health care is not a right. One can't walk into any doctor's office and demand that the provider fulfill your need upon demand. You don't have any claim to dominate a doctor's time.

[The Xl]

There is no right to healthcare, but there is no right for government to collude with the insurance industry to make it unaffordable either.

[Trumpster]

In the not too distant past, people only went to doctors when they absolutely needed to and many of them, if not most, paid cash. Being overweight or obese was comparatively rare. Now, being overweight or obese is common; it describes the average person. So of course there are many more illnesses that need medical attention. And there are lots of people who can't afford the higher treatment costs. Hence a greater and greater demand for universal health care. I was explaining this on another website about 15 years ago and no one seemed to think much of it. But here we are today with a larger portion of the population clamoring for single payer healthcare that they think is a right.

So people have a right to eat whatever junk foods they want and not take care of themselves and many of them now think they also have a right to subsidized (or free) healthcare. In the mean time, those of us who are conscientious and take care of ourselves are in danger of eventually being forced to take care those who don't.

Too bad people don't have to show an insurance card (showing that they paid for insurance) in order to buy high calorie processed foods! Oh, NO! That would be unfair!

[texan]

It isn't a right.

But I think we can do way better. Some 10 year kid with no money needs access to quality of life if they have Crohns for example. There are treatments that change everything for them. We should do everything we can to not damage the quality but create access. We need to be thoughtful.

I know the conservatives here believe this so when you discuss it with a rabib nut make sure we are thoughtful.

[Bob the Slob]

I have been informed by several of our liberal members that rights aren't "real", that they don't "exist". Clearly, then, there is no right to healthcare. It's just something liberals have conjured up out of thin air based on nothing concrete. So why should our society recognize something which liberals claim doesn't exist? Perhaps we should give everyone a right to a unicorn as well?

Where has that been said? Let's see links to these comments.