I'm Gay...Conservative...So What?

[zelmo1234]

Votes against his own best interests.
Of course, conservatives often do.

How is that true.

One of the lies that Democrats keep telling the LGBT community is that the GOP is anti Gay.

And that is not true, however it is true that we do however not support Gay Marriage, because we tend to be Christian and believe that marriage is between a man and a women, but that does not mean that we hate Gays.

We believe that if it is against your religion you should not have to bake a wedding cake for a Gay couple, but we feel strongly that it is only for the wedding, they should be served your daily items. That does not mean that we hate gays it means we value the constitution and religious beliefs.

So if a Gay person wants a good job, low taxes, pro life, he is at home in the GOP

[Crepitus]

^^Exactly what he talked about in the video.



In another thread where blacks voting for Reps came up a member declared those blacks were voting against their own best interests.


The point of the video is don't stereotype gays, especially as having only the interest you decide they should have.

He can have whatever interests he wants to have and shout them from the treetops as far as I'm concerned. By the same token I can express my views about how foolish he is being. That's the way it works in a free country.

[Crepitus]

How is that true.

One of the lies that Democrats keep telling the LGBT community is that the GOP is anti Gay.

And that is not true, however it is true that we do however not support Gay Marriage, because we tend to be Christian and believe that marriage is between a man and a women, but that does not mean that we hate Gays.

We believe that if it is against your religion you should not have to bake a wedding cake for a Gay couple, but we feel strongly that it is only for the wedding, they should be served your daily items. That does not mean that we hate gays it means we value the constitution and religious beliefs.

So if a Gay person wants a good job, low taxes, pro life, he is at home in the GOP

You would have a point if the highlighted statement was true. It isn't. I am not saying that you personally are anti gay, but the GOP platform most definitely is. That makes the rest of your post kinda moot.

[Kacper]

Oh, really? The leading lawyer who argued the case for marriage for gays was Theodore Olson.


The message of the video was don't stereotype, yet here you are.

Who was paid for by Rob Reiner who manufactured the whole case, including auditioning plaintiffs and hiring a conservative lawyer and getting the case in front of a conservative judge who also was gay, and the ship had already sailed on gay rights by that point anyway.

[Chris]

He can have whatever interests he wants to have and shout them from the treetops as far as I'm concerned. By the same token I can express my views about how foolish he is being. That's the way it works in a free country.

So are you speaking as a gay man? Or just speaking for all gay men when you declare to know what's in their best interests?

Regardless, you are of course free to express opinions and I am free to show them mistaken.

[Chris]

Who was paid for by Rob Reiner who manufactured the whole case, including auditioning plaintiffs and hiring a conservative lawyer and getting the case in front of a conservative judge who also was gay, and the ship had already sailed on gay rights by that point anyway.

Theodore Olson was arguing this way before all that.

[Chris]

You would have a point if the highlighted statement was true. It isn't. I am not saying that you personally are anti gay, but the GOP platform most definitely is. That makes the rest of your post kinda moot.

Another mere opinion with no substantiation.

[Kacper]

Theodore Olson was arguing this way before all that.

You weren't discussing him "way before all that". You were discussing him as the lawyer on the gay marriage case, although you did ignore that he was co-counsel with Harvey Weinstein's lawyer on the case.

[zelmo1234]

You would have a point if the highlighted statement was true. It isn't. I am not saying that you personally are anti gay, but the GOP platform most definitely is. That makes the rest of your post kinda moot.

This is not true.

It is true that we are anti gay marriage.

I actually believe that any and all marriage agreements by the government should be civil union contracts and Marriage should be decided by the Church.

Problem solved forever because everyone will have their civil union and you and I know that some church's will preform Gay marriages. But that was way to easy.

Or economic policies don't discriminate against anyone. Reducing Regulations so business can be more profitable does not discriminate.

Same with lowering taxes

We never wanted them to have different rights, we just want the Religions Marriage protected.

[Chris]

This is not true.

It is true that we are anti gay marriage.

I actually believe that any and all marriage agreements by the government should be civil union contracts and Marriage should be decided by the Church.

Problem solved forever because everyone will have their civil union and you and I know that some church's will preform Gay marriages. But that was way to easy.

Or economic policies don't discriminate against anyone. Reducing Regulations so business can be more profitable does not discriminate.

Same with lowering taxes

We never wanted them to have different rights, we just want the Religions Marriage protected.

This is what I was thinking. You may very well be for traditional marriage between a man and a woman, for whatever reasons, religious or otherwise, but being for that does not in any way imply you are anti-gay.

Yet such is the sohphomoric rhetoric of modern politics.