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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    My troll detection kit has a test. It's not a test of how pissed off a post makes you. Rather, it tests the poster. If you see someone post what think might be a troll, try to engage the OP in a discussion about it. If he engages, if he discusses it, then he's not trolling. If he instead disgresses, dissembles or disparages, he's likely a troll. You have to administer the test enough times to establish a pattern to really decide.

    No doubt the 10 commandments pissed you off. But resister engaged throughout the thread. He violated rules but was not a troll imo.

    Bethere disgressed, dissembled or disparaged 90% of the time.
    If that thread passed you troll test then you need a new one. The oneyou've got is broken. You say he "engaged", I say discussing how true his post is and how bad liberals are with his fellow trolls is not engaging in any real sense.
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    If that thread passed you troll test then you need a new one. The oneyou've got is broken. You say he "engaged", I say discussing how true his post is and how bad liberals are with his fellow trolls is not engaging in any real sense.
    Sorry, but I remember the thread as humorous. What, are you a Democrat?

    Troll doesn't mean someone on a forum that you dislike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sorry, but I remember the thread as humorous. What, are you a Democrat?

    Troll doesn't mean someone on a forum that you dislike.
    You know why you remember it a humerus Chris? Because you were one of the people "engaging" in the behavior I described.
    I don't insult, I diagnose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    You know why you remember it a humerus Chris? Because you were one of the people "engaging" in the behavior I described.
    So you can't argue with what I say, you tell me what I think and argue with that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Currently, I can agree with your assessment, but there have been situations in the past that sowed the seeds of resentment in which have been acted on for several members. If I was a new member here, I would tend to agree that we should not question motives, but having the privilege of seeing first hand the actions of one in particular, there was an active campaign to get rid of at least one member because they could not handle the return snark when engaged. PM me if you want the particulars.
    it is one thing to be snarky or smart-assed. It is a totally different thing to denigrate members and accuse them of being meth-head dumpster divers and make fun of their mate
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    it is one thing to be snarky or smart-assed. It is a totally different thing to denigrate members and accuse them of being meth-head dumpster divers and make fun of their mate
    Bethere would take what resister said in other posts not related to him and use them to troll and insult him.
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    Beth wasnt even a good troll. He was a common troll. Resister is a relative newcomer to the forum scene. In a year or two he will learn not to engage trollish behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Bethere would take what resister said in other posts not related to him and use them to troll and insult him.
    He is not the only one to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkTheSlayer View Post
    Beth wasnt even a good troll. He was a common troll. Resister is a relative newcomer to the forum scene. In a year or two he will learn not to engage trollish behavior.
    I commented elsewhere that it's impressive how many members tried to advise resister not to react so much to trolling. That's not an easy thing to do all the time, not defend yourself against trollish twisting and insults. Maybe if more of us more openly shared that advice with each other it would help. And it would sure as hell piss off the trolls.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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    It’s simple: Play by the rules and your participation here will be pleasant and uninterrupted. Continuously break the rules and you will be finding a new forum to post on.

    Both resister and Bethere chose the latter.
    "Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
    - Robert F. Kennedy (1925-1968), U.S. Senator from New York and U.S. Attorney General

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