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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well Team Obama should have thought about that when they allowed the Russians to breach the WH, the Pentagon, the State Dept, our Top Russian Counter Intel official, the DNC, and Hillary's Campaign.

    The Demos as a Party are compromised. So to the Neo Cons.


    The leftness just can't figure out that Putin and his boys were trying to undermine Western Democracies.
    Agreed. That peace, love, dove crap doesn't work with the Russians. The Obama administration screwed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Which elections are the Russians interfering with?
    US national for certain. They'd be smart to try it with state ones too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Jim View Post
    Six intelligence agencies heads under oath have testified that the Russians are still interfering in America's elections.
    Top level bureaucrats in US intelligence agencies are about as trustworthy as a fox in a hen-house. I am stunned that there are still people who take their words at face value.

    This article contains many links to the evidence.
    I see lots of allegations, but no actual evidence. I've been asking the proponents of "Russian interference" to give me ONE concrete FACT that proves or at least tends to prove their allegations. But the only thing they can produce are more allegations made by the same sector of government that gave us "weapons of mass destruction". It's nothing but a big circular jerk of people making allegations and then using more allegations to back up their original allegations.

    Of course some of you would rather blame the press (which might be our last line of defense against the Trump and company liars).
    Many press outlets are responsible for spreading fake news. It's been proven several times.
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    US "intelligence", Exhibit A
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    US "intelligence", Exhibit B
    Last edited by Ethereal; 02-13-2018 at 04:58 PM.
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    US "intelligence", Exhibit C
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post


    US "intelligence", Exhibit A
    Found that on a Russian Facebook page?

    Several things wrong with that meme;
    1) The Bush administration took intelligence data and interpreted it. While the whole "Bush lied" meme is a lie itself, the fact remains they seemed to be looking for reasons to invade Iraq.

    2) I have complete faith in the integrity of Powell. He was the largest voice of reason in the Bush administration, but I think Cheney and Rumsfeld beat him down. While I think he believed his testimony to the UN, obviously the entire concept was flawed.

    3) Intelligence failures are out there for all to see, but intelligence successes are rarely known for what should be obvious reasons. Ergo, it's stupid to just assume our intelligence services are incompetent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Found that on a Russian Facebook page?

    Several things wrong with that meme;

    1) The Bush administration took intelligence data and interpreted it. While the whole "Bush lied" meme is a lie itself, the fact remains they seemed to be looking for reasons to invade Iraq.

    2) I have complete faith in the integrity of Powell. He was the largest voice of reason in the Bush administration, but I think Cheney and Rumsfeld beat him down. While I think he believed his testimony to the UN, obviously the entire concept was flawed.

    3) Intelligence failures are out there for all to see, but intelligence successes are rarely known for what should be obvious reasons. Ergo, it's stupid to just assume our intelligence services are incompetent.
    It's not really a "meme", it's just a well-known picture of Colin Powell disseminating propaganda and misinformation to the international community on behalf of the criminal Bush regime.

    US "intelligence" has been spreading misinformation and propaganda for decades. They are not credible among reasonable people. Any allegations or claims made by US "intelligence" should be met with a massive amount of skepticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    It's not really a "meme", .....
    Incorrect. It's a meme as displayed by your comment "US "intelligence", Exhibit A".
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