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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    An act of war? Seriously? What exactly do you suggest we do? Hopefully, you suggest we do nothing because Russian interference was as silly as the reaction to it.
    US outrage is downright laughable. I don't care about Russian interference. It's meaningless. This is par for the course. Get used to it. The US government has been engaging in this sort of behavior for your entire life.
    Last, I suspect you think it's different when we do it. Is that so?
    Yes. Yes. Increase our defenses, vigilance and counter-attack in a like manner. Your defense of the Russians is interesting.

    Disagreed. Obviously. Of course, that's what the Russians would want us to do. Again, whataboutism.

    No, I don't. OTOH, I do think that people who bring up US actions during the Cold War but never, ever say a bad word about the USSR and the PRC, are communist sympathizers or lackeys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This makes me smile. We are a nation of buffoons.
    As proved by our leadership. You should Tweet that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    As proved by our leadership. You should Tweet that.
    I grow weary. Where do you really obtuse people come from? Is there some nest somewhere?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I grow weary. Where do you really obtuse people come from? Is there some nest somewhere?
    Translation: You Americans are a pain in the ass. When will you learn that the Soviet Union Mother Russia is superior to your little experiment in democracy?

    Drink more vodka, tovarich. You're going to need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Translation: You Americans are a pain in the ass. When will you learn that the Soviet Union Mother Russia is superior to your little experiment in democracy?

    Drink more vodka, tovarich. You're going to need it.
    Kook alert.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Incorrect. It's a meme as displayed by your comment "US "intelligence", Exhibit A".
    Meh, Ethereal has been dumping on the US for years. Despite the fact that he served. He thinks were suppose to be perfect and so Righteous that we should allow others to roll over our allies and our own people.

    Break out the celebration when you see his ass stick up for the US. Oh and let me know too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    True, but there's a difference between overt Soviet propaganda and cyber-warfare, hacking and subterfuge.
    Not really, the goal is the same, the tech has changed. Along with the fact that Russia did not hack the election, the only thing that has been shown is that they used propaganda to try to influence opinions. The DNC hack has not been traced to the Russians because the DNC would not let it be investigated. John Podesta emails were not Hacked really, he was a "victim" of Phishing, in other words he opened the door and invited the attacker in, again not tracked to Russians, although they have been accused of it.

    No election equipment has been compromised, no votes changed, no vote tallies adjusted, therefore it is simple, the election was not hacked, the American people voted and elected Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    US intelligence deliberately lying for political purposes would be nothing new.
    That will never sway the mindless idiots who worship the government and the national security state in particular.

    They have been brainwashed into believing that "patriotism" means exercising slavish obedience and deference to the habitual liars in government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Your defense of the Russians is interesting.
    Your defense of the habitual liars in government is even more interesting.

    Disagreed. Obviously. Of course, that's what the Russians would want us to do. Again, whataboutism.
    The US government and its apologists are hypocritical phonies. Literally everything they accuse the Russians of doing, they are guilty of themselves a thousand times over.

    Aggression against other countries? Check.

    Interfering in the political processes of other countries? Check.

    Corruption and abuse of power? Check.

    Spreading propaganda. Check.

    I do think that people who bring up US actions during the Cold War but never, ever say a bad word about the USSR and the PRC, are communist sympathizers or lackeys.
    Government apologists like you have far more in common with the commies than we do. You would have made a fine Soviet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Translation: You Americans are a pain in the ass. When will you learn that the Soviet Union Mother Russia is superior to your little experiment in democracy?

    Drink more vodka, tovarich. You're going to need it.
    You know Max has reached his intellectual limit when he starts accusing you of being a Russian.
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