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    Trump says he will make schools safer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Despite all the mudslinging from both sides about public education and teacher unions, the Feds only pay about 8% of school funding. The remainder is from local and state, which is why poor people in poor counties have poor schools.

    https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/f...cts/index.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    He's probably relying on the states to foot the bill which no doubt means that the poorer states will have to rely on teachers to make the schools safer. Very poor timing on Trumps part.....again.
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    Israel Figured Out How to Prevent School Shootings 40 Years Ago-It's Time the US Followed Suit


    President Trump: Have Education Department Mandate Active Shooter Protocols.....


    President Trump, if the Department of Education can force Americans to deal with the disaster of Common Core, it can certainly issue a federal mandate regarding school security. The time is now.


    My personal manifesto is that government should never get involved in an issue unless an ongoing clear and present danger exists to large numbers of people, and that any regulation or legislation has a sunset provision.
    Here we are.

    In 1974, Israel endured the Ma’alot Massacre in which “Palestinian” terrorists took 115 people hostage at Netiv Meir Elementary School.


    Twenty-two children and three others were killed and 68 injured. Israel now requires schools with 100 or more students to have a guard posted. The civilian police force handles the entire security system of all schools from kindergarten through college. The Ministry of Education funds shelters and fences, reinforces school buses, and hires and trains guards.


    Guards don’t just stand around. They check everyone entering, and engage threats.


    And yeah, they’ve got guns.The lawful purposes for carrying guns are very clear: protect school personnel and students, create a sense of security, deter the ill-intentioned, and provide self-defense.


    Common sense. Except to the illogical dullards who claim that “adding guns to schools won’t fix anything” and are fixated on the NRA and the ridiculous notions that gun laws magically stop criminals and crazy people from obtaining one of the 300 million guns in our country.


    But more to the point, Israel’s Police Community & Civil Guard Department have a preventative care program that encourages safe behavior and offers violence protection strategies in normal situations. Yet students are also trained in how to respond to an active shooter situation.


    Ben Goldstein, an American who made aliyah to Israel, and now serves as volunteer security and supporter of IDF soldiers, says America is behind the curve. Nevertheless, he says, it doesn’t take much for students and teachers to protect themselves.

    “Barricade, barricade. Are desks movable? Is the teacher’s desk movable? Can they barricade inside of 20 seconds? If the shooter gets in, the kids should take whatever they’ve got and attack. They can’t just sit there frozen or they will die. America does earthquake drills, why not active shooter drills? More kids have been killed by shooters than earthquakes.”


    There is no other way, says Goldstein, and “sometimes children must take matters into their own hands.If the school has no proper security – two guards in case one gets shot, and no active shooter protocol, and no doors to withstand an attack – then the child needs to run as fast as they can AWAY from the shooter.”



    The only solution is for America to toughen up. We have a pugilist for a president, and that is long overdue. Now its time for President Trump to fight for our children by wielding government power in the proper manner, to do something that any reasoned American would agree with.


    Instead of handing out participation trophies, let’s make our kids into the self-reliant, pro-active defenders of themselves and others......snip~

    https://townhall.com/columnists/lawr...ocols-n2449726
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Despite all the mudslinging from both sides about public education and teacher unions, the Feds only pay about 8% of school funding. The remainder is from local and state, which is why poor people in poor counties have poor schools.

    https://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/f...cts/index.html
    And Trump cutting millions from these programs is going to make schools safer how?

    I'm all ears!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Israel Figured Out How to Prevent School Shootings 40 Years Ago-It's Time the US Followed Suit


    President Trump: Have Education Department Mandate Active Shooter Protocols.....


    President Trump, if the Department of Education can force Americans to deal with the disaster of Common Core, it can certainly issue a federal mandate regarding school security. The time is now.


    My personal manifesto is that government should never get involved in an issue unless an ongoing clear and present danger exists to large numbers of people, and that any regulation or legislation has a sunset provision.
    Here we are.

    In 1974, Israel endured the Ma’alot Massacre in which “Palestinian” terrorists took 115 people hostage at Netiv Meir Elementary School.


    Twenty-two children and three others were killed and 68 injured. Israel now requires schools with 100 or more students to have a guard posted. The civilian police force handles the entire security system of all schools from kindergarten through college. The Ministry of Education funds shelters and fences, reinforces school buses, and hires and trains guards.


    Guards don’t just stand around. They check everyone entering, and engage threats.


    And yeah, they’ve got guns.The lawful purposes for carrying guns are very clear: protect school personnel and students, create a sense of security, deter the ill-intentioned, and provide self-defense.


    Common sense. Except to the illogical dullards who claim that “adding guns to schools won’t fix anything” and are fixated on the NRA and the ridiculous notions that gun laws magically stop criminals and crazy people from obtaining one of the 300 million guns in our country.


    But more to the point, Israel’s Police Community & Civil Guard Department have a preventative care program that encourages safe behavior and offers violence protection strategies in normal situations. Yet students are also trained in how to respond to an active shooter situation.


    Ben Goldstein, an American who made aliyah to Israel, and now serves as volunteer security and supporter of IDF soldiers, says America is behind the curve. Nevertheless, he says, it doesn’t take much for students and teachers to protect themselves.

    “Barricade, barricade. Are desks movable? Is the teacher’s desk movable? Can they barricade inside of 20 seconds? If the shooter gets in, the kids should take whatever they’ve got and attack. They can’t just sit there frozen or they will die. America does earthquake drills, why not active shooter drills? More kids have been killed by shooters than earthquakes.”


    There is no other way, says Goldstein, and “sometimes children must take matters into their own hands.If the school has no proper security – two guards in case one gets shot, and no active shooter protocol, and no doors to withstand an attack – then the child needs to run as fast as they can AWAY from the shooter.”



    The only solution is for America to toughen up. We have a pugilist for a president, and that is long overdue. Now its time for President Trump to fight for our children by wielding government power in the proper manner, to do something that any reasoned American would agree with.


    Instead of handing out participation trophies, let’s make our kids into the self-reliant, pro-active defenders of themselves and others......snip~

    https://townhall.com/columnists/lawr...ocols-n2449726
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    The person who purchased the seat of education secretary is busy dismantling the department.
    Here is what Trump actually said.


    Trump says will make schools safer after Florida shooting.....


    U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday called for healing and peace one day after a gunman killed at least 17 people at a Florida high school, saying his administration would work to improve school safety and address mental illness. Trump said he was making plans to meet with families in Parkland, Florida.


    In televised remarks from the White House, Trump, who has an 11-year-old son, said he wanted to address America's children with the message they are "never alone and you never will be."


    "You have people who care about you, who love you, and who will do anything at all to protect you," he said.


    Democrats have said the shooting underscores the need for tougher gun laws, but Trump did not mention the issue in his brief address, delivered from the White House.


    He said he would make school safety the top priority when he meets with governors and state attorneys general later this month.


    "We must also work together to create a culture in our country that embraces the dignity of life, that creates deep and meaningful human connections," Trump said, urging children who feel scared or alone to reach out to trusted adults for help. .....snip~

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breaki...t5R&ocid=ientp
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here is what Trump actually said.


    Trump says will make schools safer after Florida shooting.....


    U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday called for healing and peace one day after a gunman killed at least 17 people at a Florida high school, saying his administration would work to improve school safety and address mental illness. Trump said he was making plans to meet with families in Parkland, Florida.


    In televised remarks from the White House, Trump, who has an 11-year-old son, said he wanted to address America's children with the message they are "never alone and you never will be."


    "You have people who care about you, who love you, and who will do anything at all to protect you," he said.


    Democrats have said the shooting underscores the need for tougher gun laws, but Trump did not mention the issue in his brief address, delivered from the White House.


    He said he would make school safety the top priority when he meets with governors and state attorneys general later this month.


    "We must also work together to create a culture in our country that embraces the dignity of life, that creates deep and meaningful human connections," Trump said, urging children who feel scared or alone to reach out to trusted adults for help. .....snip~

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breaki...t5R&ocid=ientp
    So how does cutting millions from school safety programs forward that stated goal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    And Trump cutting millions from these programs is going to make schools safer how?

    I'm all ears!
    I don't know what his plan is, but will agree cutting funding isn't helping. That said, as noted above, the Feds pay very little to begin with. It's up to the States to make their schools safer.

    Consider this last tragedy. The FBI is informed. Not a lawyer, but my understanding is that it's out of their jurisdiction and they passed the info to local authorities thus putting it on Broward County. While LWers are trying to make this Trump's fault, it really belongs in the lap of Governor Scott and all the elected officials of Broward County and Parkland.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    And Trump cutting millions from these programs is going to make schools safer how?

    I'm all ears!

    The part you didn't figure out.....the Fed can help. But the main responsibility is on the States. Maybe the leftness should drop the BS about a school being a Gun Free Safe Zone.
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