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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Steven Pinker on the harm identity politics causes...even itself. Important is the distinction he makes between the origins of identity politics and it's current manifestation.

    Identity Politics Is 'An Enemy of Reason and Enlightenment Values'
    People who oppose identity politics are playing identity politics. You apparently don't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    No, CS, you're like some here who enter a discussion by redefining words, arguing semantics and ambiguity, and thereby chaging the topic, which i defined by the OP: A fairly recennt development in American politics that is called identity politics.

    It can't be that Canada is isolated, here's Canadian Peterson on identity politics:



    American Haidt:



    I've posted many threads on identity politics.
    I'm not redefining anything. You're trying to pass one persons opinion off as indisputable gospel.

    To be honest my initial response was just my honest thoughts on the op and perhaps an extrapolation of it. However I'm well aware of your views on identity politics and the idea that it's solely a phenomenon of the left. I'm simply trying to balance the argument with the idea that it goes beyond that and that the current polarization is linked to identity politics on all sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    I'm not redefining anything. You're trying to pass one persons opinion off as indisputable gospel.

    To be honest my initial response was just my honest thoughts on the op and perhaps an extrapolation of it. However I'm well aware of your views on identity politics and the idea that it's solely a phenomenon of the left. I'm simply trying to balance the argument with the idea that it goes beyond that and that the current polarization is linked to identity politics on all sides.

    It is the current definition. And it is the topic. If you want to talk about something different, start your own thread. You're not balancing anything.
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    Criminy, even Bill Murray gets it: Bill Murray Just Delivered Kill Shot To PC Identity Politics



    ...“He says, ‘No, no. I just think the way Democrats handle things is poor, where they try to pick out little pieces of a population and say we represent the Hispanics, we represent the LGBT or something,'” Murray said.

    He argued that some voters should feel insulted to realize that they are important to politicians largely due to the circumstances of their birth.

    “They’re not speaking to everyone at once,” he said. “It’s almost demeaning to say ‘I’m choosing you because you’re a splinter group or you’re a certain minority group.’ There’s almost a resentment that somehow you’re separated again by a politician.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacper View Post
    People who oppose identity politics are playing identity politics. You apparently don't see that.
    No, but let's see if you can explain it.
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    Uh, @Kacper, I'm eagerly awaiting your explanation.
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