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    NYT Columnist: Let's Repeal the Second Amendment.....

    Back in October, after the Las Vegas Shooting, New York Times columnist Bret Stephens argued that the Second Amendment should be repealed. Since Wednesday's shooting in South Florida, Stephens' OpEd has re-circulated across social media, which eventually led to another OpEd pushing for repealing the Second Amendment.


    In Stephens' October piece, he mentioned that gun control advocates frequently lose the debate on gun laws because they get their facts wrong:


    ...why do liberals keep losing the gun control debate?
    Maybe it’s because they argue their case badly and — let’s face it — in bad faith. Democratic politicians routinely profess their fidelity to the Second Amendment — or rather, “a nuanced reading” of it — with all the conviction of Barack Obama’s support for traditional marriage, circa 2008. People recognize lip service for what it is.
    Then there are the endless liberal errors of fact. There is no “gun-show loophole” per se; it’s a private-sale loophole, in other words the right to sell your own stuff. The civilian AR-15 is not a true “assault rifle,” and banning such rifles would have little effect on the overall murder rate, since most homicides are committed with handguns. It’s not true that 40 percent of gun owners buy without a background check; the real number is closer to one-fifth.
    The National Rifle Association does not have Republican “balls in a money clip,” as Jimmy Kimmel put it the other night. The N.R.A. has donated a paltry $3,533,294 to all current members of Congress since 1998, according to The Washington Post, equivalent to about three months of Kimmel’s salary. The N.R.A. doesn’t need to buy influence: It’s powerful because it’s popular.


    At least he recognized his side has their so-called "facts" wrong.


    NRATV's Cam Edwards pointed out one piece of information that gun control advocates are quick to forget: they can't just repeal the Second Amendment without a Constitutional Convention or two-thirds of Congress agreeing that the amendment should be repealed. And even then, they would still need more than half of the states to agree to repeal the Second Amendment.


    Wednesday's shooting in Florida gave Stephens even more ammo to push the idea that the Second Amendment should be completely repealed. In his Friday OpEd, he made quite a few claims that are downright...sad......snip~

    https://townhall.com/notebook/bethba...dment-n2450738



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    So, they say they have the "end" to the problem, but what concerns me the most is the "means".............
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    There is no chance the second amendment will ever be repealed
    LETS GO BRANDON
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    There is no chance the second amendment will ever be repealed
    That's Right.....but what it will show is the lefts true intention. Then it will start a civil war and it becomes legal to hunt leftists.
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    Why not repeal it. They have already de facto repealed the 9th and 10th Amendments, Antifa is working to repeal the 1st Amendment. They haven't addressed the 6th yet but it will soon be on the agenda.

    When the left accused George W. Bush of claiming the Constitution was just a piece of paper, they must have been projecting their own beliefs and desires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Message for the leftness.....go for it. But be prepared for the consequences coming your way.
    What about the right wingers who support repeal of the 2nd Amendment, do they get a free pass (there are some you know)? And what "consequences" are you talking about? Social stigmatization? Are people not entitled to take a position on a particular issue without being threatened with "consequences"?
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    What about the right wingers who support repeal of the 2nd Amendment, do they get a free pass (there are some you know)? And what "consequences" are you talking about? Social stigmatization? Are people not entitled to take a position on a particular issue without being threatened with "consequences"?
    Conservative mentality. Most of them are about as sophisticated as playground bullies. Just as well educated too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Conservative mentality. Most of them are about as sophisticated as playground bullies. Just as well educated too.
    Agreed; I think its a shame that people cannot take a position with fear of retribution. What happened to living in a society where you could vote to change laws where everyone peacefully abide by new changes voted on by a majority of its citizens?
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    What about the right wingers who support repeal of the 2nd Amendment, do they get a free pass (there are some you know)? And what "consequences" are you talking about? Social stigmatization? Are people not entitled to take a position on a particular issue without being threatened with "consequences"?

    Very very few.....there will be all kinds of consequences besides social stigmatization. The worst being the ending of the Demo Party. As there are a lot more leftists that own guns than those very very few people on the Right who support repeal of the 2nd.


    The Demo party is damn near broke now. Almost to the point of insolvency. Pushing for repeal of the 2nd. They will lose even more money. Then go bankrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Conservative mentality. Most of them are about as sophisticated as playground bullies. Just as well educated too.
    And yet the people on the left, always claim (falsely by the way) that Conservatives are nothing but a bunch of rich racist homophobes!

    If we are all so stupid? How come we ended up with the money according to Democrats?

    What I will give this columnist credit for is telling the truth. He states what I believe the majority of the left want and that is to repeal the 2nd amendment and confiscate the Guns from law abiding citizens. They will not move to take them from criminals because they use high crime areas as a means for more government control

    Why do they need to get the guns out of law abiding citizens? Because they can't move the agenda any further by constitutional means.

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