Democrats, spare me your hypocrisy on guns......

[MMC]

There is no point is this argument, the murdoch zombies are indoctrinated meanwhile the politicians are bought with NRA money through lobbyists...
the murdoch network, keeps emphasizing on the importance of having an armed militia... i dont blame them...
the US military is not created to protect the citizens of the united states of lobbyists, rather it defends foreign entities who can afford to lobby the red slaves in our legislator.

Of course there isn't if the leftness can't be honest and tell the truth. Although, there are leftist that can do that. Oh and they know the gun issue has been going on a whole lot longer than Fox News has been around. Or before Rupert Murdoch was an inkling in his parent eyes.

Oh and yes you do blame them.....hence all that BS about Murdoch. Militias. etc etc.

[stjames1_53]

You can stack the bodies up by the millions, and the NRA gun nuts will just step over them!

The very least we should settle for is;

Reenact the automatic weapons ban!
Outlaw bump stocks
Ban those with mental problems and violence convictions from ever getting a gun

If we don't the SLAUGHTER will get worse, then we will have real gun control!

what year are you in?
All of these things are already law. With one exception and that is the full auto......that is heavily regulated by BATF.

[MMC]

We Can’t Have A Debate About Guns If Liberals Keep Lying About Them


The falsehoods or misleading statistics offered by gun-control advocates makes it virtually impossible to have a genuine discussion about violence.


There’s always a lot of emotion after a horrific school shooting, and that’s completely understandable. There is also an immediate push for vague “do-something” gun-control legislation often wholly untethered from the incidents it is purporting to stop, which is less understandable. Worse, most of these efforts are bolstered by falsehoods and half-truths that make it virtually impossible to have a genuine discussion about the problem.


It’s an endless task, but let’s just take Joe Scarborough’s Washington Post column on the Parkland shooting as an example, since he uses a couple of the most fraudulent talking points about modern gun ownership.



No one is stockpiling weapons of war, unless they’ve illegally gotten their hands on fully-automatic M-16s. Moreover, Scarborough takes Scalia out of context. Of course there are limitations on gun ownership — there are over 10,000 gun laws being ignored by criminals as we speak. Many of these laws ban or put severe restrictions on “dangerous and unusual weapons.”


Heller, though, found that the Second Amendment protected weapons “in common use by law-abiding citizens.” The AR-15 clearly meets this criteria. If Scarborough and others are proposing banning all semi-automatic handguns and rifles, that’s their right. But their contention that AR-15s are “weapons of war” or especially “dangerous and unusual” compared to other widely-owned guns, they are mistaken. The idea that Scalia would support bans on semi-automatic weapons seems risible.


“Assault weapon” mostly means “scary looking.” The AR-15 functions like any other semi-automatic. It is largely the cosmetics of the rifle that make it a useful political target — and probably why school shooters gravitate towards them lately. But the lapse of the assault weapons ban in 2004 did not precipitate an uptick in gun violence. In fact, gun violence had soon fallen to historic lows (there is plenty evidence to suggest that crime rates have far more to do with social trends and economics than a rise or fall in gun ownership, but that’s another story.)


Nor do murderers need AR-15s to shoot up schools. From 1999 to 2013, “assault rifles” were used in 27 percent of mass shootings — defined as four or more murder victims in one shooting. Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people at the gun-free zone of Virginia Tech using two semi-automatic handguns.


This attempt to artificially diminish the number of Americans who own guns works in concert with efforts to blame one organization, the NRA, which apparently has a mint in its basement and a supernatural power to make politicians complicit in mass murder. All of it is meant to create the perception that only a few people stand in the way of “common sense” gun legislation. It’s a myth.


A big part of the problem is that gun-control advocates have a singular obsession with guns — especially, a particular style of gun — and very little concern for proper enforcement or warnings systems or cultural trends that have led to mass shootings or mental health risks or how we cover these shootings. This rejection of holistic solutions exemplifies their real intentions and makes Second Amendment advocates rightfully suspicious......snip~


http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/16/...ng-about-them/



Alright.....way to go The Federalist. Out that fake ass Republican Joe Scarborough on display for the lying sack of $#@! he is. This needs to happen more and more. Then we can drive these mopes out of the public view.

[Cletus]

As I recall, fully automatic weapons require a special license and to date no such licensee has ever used such a weapon in the commission of a crime. @Cletus is that so?

Legally owned Class III firearms have been used in two homicides since 1934, when the NFA went into effect. The first one was a dirty cop in Ohio who used his legally owned MAC-11 to kill an informant in 1988. The other one, I don't have the details on right offhand, but it was also in Ohio in 1992. There are about a quarter of a million legally owned fully automatic weapons in private hands in the US. 2 homicides out of all those guns over all those years is statistically insignificant.

[Mister D]

Legally owned Class III firearms have been used in two homicides since 1934, when the NFA went into effect. The first one was a dirty cop in Ohio who used his legally owned MAC-11 to kill an informant in 1988. The other one, I don't have the details on right offhand, but it was also in Ohio in 1992. There are about a quarter of a million legally owned fully automatic weapons in private hands in the US. 2 homicides out of all those guns over all those years is statistically insignificant.

Thanks for the info.

[texan]

You poor indoctrinated soul...
enjoying the murdoch network zombie disinformation on air vomiting?
as long as the NRA and thier mighty lobbyists are free to do as they please, there will be many lives of citizens of the united states of lobbyists lost...kids, seniors, women, disabled, veterans, and about every body else...

You sound real intelligent. Good to see people with open minds posting. Got news for you the news networks from all walks are zombie driven at this time.

[texan]

You can stack the bodies up by the millions, and the NRA gun nuts will just step over them!

The very least we should settle for is;

Reenact the automatic weapons ban!
Outlaw bump stocks
Ban those with mental problems and violence convictions from ever getting a gun

If we don't the SLAUGHTER will get worse, then we will have real gun control!

Oh so you want more B$HIT? DC isn't solving this problem and the sheep should get a clue. Bump stocks and Assault bans..........Whatever! I love the ban those with mental problems. That's a great one. See me when you want a real fix or stick with your feel good bologna.

BTW I say this and am not a gun person. People need to get real, political games is not the answer.

[Tahuyaman]

You poor indoctrinated soul...
enjoying the murdoch network zombie disinformation on air vomiting?
as long as the NRA and thier mighty lobbyists are free to do as they please, there will be many lives of citizens of the united states of lobbyists lost...kids, seniors, women, disabled, veterans, and about every body else...

No one affiliated with the NRA has ever committed one of these mass shootings. The NRA is the single greatest advocate for firearms safety training in the nation.

[MisterVeritis]

This attempt to artificially diminish the number of Americans who own guns works in concert with efforts to blame one organization, the NRA, which apparently has a mint in its basement and a supernatural power to make politicians complicit in mass murder. All of it is meant to create the perception that only a few people stand in the way of “common sense” gun legislation. It’s a myth.

Clearly, the NRA and the Russians are colluding. How else could the NRA, with its small budget be responsible for such huge results? We know because liberals tell us it is so that the Russians swayed the election in swing states with their social media efforts. Yet, if the news story I heard last night is true the Russians spent around 1K in each of three swing states.

So the NRA learned long before me that the Russians are the key to extraordinarily effective social media campaigns.
When will Mueller show us the evidence he has to tie the Russians to the NRA?

[MMC]

Clearly, the NRA and the Russians are colluding. How else could the NRA, with its small budget be responsible for such huge results? We know because liberals tell us it is so that the Russians swayed the election in swing states with their social media efforts. Yet, if the news story I heard last night is true the Russians spent around 1K in each of three swing states.

So the NRA learned long before me that the Russians are the key to extraordinarily effective social media campaigns.
When will Mueller show us the evidence he has to tie the Russians to the NRA?

I'm going with......when the Demos start wearing Halos and run around saying. I can tell no lies.