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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Rockatansky View Post
    Correct. What federal crimes should Cruz have been charged with before the shooting?
    None of course

    But I will say this, I would favor a law that allowed for the FBI or any other police agency to remove the guns from a home for 21 days for a state mandated psychological examination. Also I would allow the defendant to get a 2nd opinion from a psychiatrist of his choice if found guilty.

    The guns have to be kept and cared for and can't be sold or destroyed for 5 years, and mentally sound family members can claim them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texan View Post
    Up the SRO's in the school, then it ends today. This is actually doing something. ORRRRRRRRRRRR we can do what we have been doing arguing about things that have no impact or would never be agreed to by either party.

    1. Make it a law (6 states have it) that the local authorities can take weapons pending phsyc eval when complaints are lodged. Nothing wrong with doing this.

    2. Up the SRO's per school. Notice that people seem to hate cops but no one shoots up the police station. It is because it would end in 5 seconds. People only attack soft targets.

    3. Multiple times the local authorities went to this guys house. The school expelled him. The FBI was notified a month before. But somehow this is a gun issue? Bull$hit! This wasn't a gun issue.
    #1 It certainly is wrong.

    #2. It is now needed.

    #3 Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    I edited my post after you responded. I also wanted to point out that we need to get money out of politics. That is also the problem and I think speaks to the point you are making.
    Why should money be taken out of politics. it can't be nor should it be. That just gives the incumbent a free ride. It also violates my right to use my money for my right to free speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    You are correct and I thank you for your post.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...p-ag-sessions/

    Up 23% is a start but certainly not enough And this is a presidential issue the President is the chief law enforcement officer

    Also I actually agree with Trump Calling out the FBI on this one, clearly there were mistakes made and they can't happen again.
    Have you ever thought that some problems have no solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Have you ever thought that some problems have no solution?
    Yes but this is not one of them...

    New Gun legislation with the possible exception of a short evaluation period for the mentally ill will not stop these shootings.

    But allowing teachers that are willing to conceal carry and adding armed and trained security to the schools will stop this

    We know in nearly every case the shooting does not stop until the shooter is dead, the faster we can make that happen the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    In the wake of another school Shooting, It is clear that we must do something to protect our Children from these monsters.

    Our Friends on the left, are starting to propose a multitude of new laws, and We, including myself need to understand that this is there way of trying to solve the problems. And they are not bad people for wanting these laws.

    But unfortunately, there are people in the Democratic party that are not pure at heart.

    And if they want more legislation, I feel that the must Demand that we actually enforce the current laws on the books first. That to me seems logical and Fair.

    So here are a few articles that show a very large problem with the leaders of the DNC and I wonder if our friends can shed some light on why they believe this happened, and what should be done about it.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gu...rticle/2516175

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ll-in-prosecu/

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ll-in-prosecu/

    In a time when Gun violence was on the rise in the USA The Obama Administration let Federal Gun prosecutions drop nearly 45%

    And I don't remember any outrage from our friends on the left.

    Clearly it was not that hard to fix this problem as Trump has increased them in his first year.

    So Please tell me, why I should Trust the Democratic leaders with more laws, when they refuse to enforce the ones that we already have.

    It's not rocket urgery: Security gards or let teachers carry

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    LEO just arrested a kid here in southern Indiana for threatening...........He had not actually committed murder, but he was planning doing it at his school.
    WFT couldn't LEO have arrested the fool in FL?
    It appears Cruz had been arrested before, but arresting and making charges stick are two different things. Again, this is the area where the laws need to be clarified.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    None of course

    But I will say this, I would favor a law that allowed for the FBI or any other police agency to remove the guns from a home for 21 days for a state mandated psychological examination. Also I would allow the defendant to get a 2nd opinion from a psychiatrist of his choice if found guilty.

    The guns have to be kept and cared for and can't be sold or destroyed for 5 years, and mentally sound family members can claim them.
    A more reasonable course of action. Of course the nitty-gritty is in the details.


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    I saw Democrat Jim Himes ranting on CNN about banning guns, banning high capacity magazines and usual litany of anti-gun memes. One thing he mentioned was how great the Australian form of gun control was working. He, of course, didn't mention that it involved mandatory confiscation of most firearms. The usual LW anti-gun deceit.

    Another thing I saw recently was banning anyone on the "Terror Watch List" from owning guns. Another tactic Obama had tried; stripping people of their rights without due process and no means to get off of it.

    Here's two articles on why that list is a failure: https://www.dailywire.com/news/6879/...prestigiacomo#

    https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/polit...wis/index.html


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