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    Mueller indictments still miss the mark on Trump-Russia collusion......

    Oh my.....the lefts own Constitutional Attorney and Professor of Law. Jonathon Turley. On the Hill and telling it like it is. Face the facts leftness. The Trump Russian Collusion is Ovaaaa. Done.....finito.




    Lewis Carroll once wrote in praise of adjectives, saying that “adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs.” That is certainly true with the latest indictments by special counsel Robert Mueller of 13 Russians for interfering with the 2016 presidential election. For the White House, the entire report comes down to a single adjective. Let’s see if you can spot it: The Russian defendants “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign.”


    Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.


    While Trump seemed to be focusing on the specific allegations of collusion by his campaign, he will now have a chance to make that distinction more clearly and concretely. This indictment is incredibly detailed and damning as to the effort of the Russians to interfere in the election and then hide their tracks once the FBI went into the field looking for the hackers.


    That brings us back to “unwitting.” Not only did the indictment clearly say that no one in the Trump campaign was wittingly or knowingly involved with the Russians, it explains how the Russians used fake names and groups to hide their real identities. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave a press conference and drove home that point, stating that there was no evidence of any knowing involvement by the Trump campaign, as well as no evidence that this effort impacted the election. Indeed, Rosenstein stated that there is “no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge” of the Russian effort.


    Now, the special counsel and the deputy attorney general are saying that there is no evidence of knowing interaction of campaign staff with Russians interfering with the election. The paucity of such evidence follows a year of intensive investigation and the much heralded plea bargains with former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and the expected plea with former campaign official Rick Gates. There is still no evidence of anyone “wittingly” or knowingly colluding with these Russians. Moreover, the indictment says that the Russian efforts began in 2014, long before the candidacy of Trump.


    This all brings us back to “unwitting.” When this history is written, that adjective could well stand out as the turning point in the Russian investigation. The remaining question could be whether Trump wittingly obstructed an investigation into unwitting contacts with the Russians......snip~


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    Ah, yet another desperate "trump didn't do it" thread.

    Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Ah, yet another desperate "trump didn't do it" thread.

    Enjoy.

    Truth from a leftist to your kind.....hurts huh? Padding, aspirin, and the Pub is that way >>>>>
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh my.....the lefts own Constitutional Attorney and Professor of Law. Jonathon Turley. On the Hill and telling it like it is. Face the facts leftness. The Trump Russian Collusion is Ovaaaa. Done.....finito.




    Lewis Carroll once wrote in praise of adjectives, saying that “adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs.” That is certainly true with the latest indictments by special counsel Robert Mueller of 13 Russians for interfering with the 2016 presidential election. For the White House, the entire report comes down to a single adjective. Let’s see if you can spot it: The Russian defendants “communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump campaign.”


    Despite a 37-page indictment with a long narrative on a coordinated Russian campaign of interference, the most newsworthy fact comes from the carefully placed adjective “unwitting.” It confirms that the special counsel has found no knowing coordination or collusion between these hackers and Trump officials. The indictment names 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in alleged interference in the 2016 presidential election. It describes a coordinated effort by Russians, including the shadowy Internet Research Agency, to wage “information warfare” against the United States.


    While Trump seemed to be focusing on the specific allegations of collusion by his campaign, he will now have a chance to make that distinction more clearly and concretely. This indictment is incredibly detailed and damning as to the effort of the Russians to interfere in the election and then hide their tracks once the FBI went into the field looking for the hackers.


    That brings us back to “unwitting.” Not only did the indictment clearly say that no one in the Trump campaign was wittingly or knowingly involved with the Russians, it explains how the Russians used fake names and groups to hide their real identities. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein gave a press conference and drove home that point, stating that there was no evidence of any knowing involvement by the Trump campaign, as well as no evidence that this effort impacted the election. Indeed, Rosenstein stated that there is “no allegation in this indictment that any American had any knowledge” of the Russian effort.


    Now, the special counsel and the deputy attorney general are saying that there is no evidence of knowing interaction of campaign staff with Russians interfering with the election. The paucity of such evidence follows a year of intensive investigation and the much heralded plea bargains with former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and campaign adviser George Papadopoulos and the expected plea with former campaign official Rick Gates. There is still no evidence of anyone “wittingly” or knowingly colluding with these Russians. Moreover, the indictment says that the Russian efforts began in 2014, long before the candidacy of Trump.


    This all brings us back to “unwitting.” When this history is written, that adjective could well stand out as the turning point in the Russian investigation. The remaining question could be whether Trump wittingly obstructed an investigation into unwitting contacts with the Russians......snip~


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    Most of the lefty law professors say this is total BS right down to proving obstruction. The only people staying with it are those that have bit off more than they can chew on the topic. Cannot turn back now. Already completely invested.

    So everyone can enjoy Craptius making more pointless statements. When are the shoes gonna drop? Oh yeah they are just on the other parties head.
    I am tired of everyone fighting with each other. This is all by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    lawyers are not in the habit of using improper grammar. Their words are to be taken literally. Grammar is everything.

    Nor are they into calling out mopes for being mopes. But sometimes the ignorant must be educated. Hence CNN!


    None of that has stopped the spin. CNN political director David Chalian insisted that nothing in the indictment actually says that the Trump campaign did nothing wrong. But prosecutors generally do not use indictments to affirmatively exonerate organizations. They focus on the matter under investigation. On the same panel, CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordero speculated that the Mueller team added this language “to give it political cover” to protect his investigation and allow it to continue without interference from the White House. There is also the slight possibility that this is an indictment which stated the facts required to be truthful to the court and that there is no evidence of collusion.....snip~ SAME LINK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Nor are they into calling out mopes for being mopes. But sometimes the ignorant must be educated. Hence CNN!


    None of that has stopped the spin. CNN political director David Chalian insisted that nothing in the indictment actually says that the Trump campaign did nothing wrong. But prosecutors generally do not use indictments to affirmatively exonerate organizations. They focus on the matter under investigation. On the same panel, CNN legal analyst Carrie Cordero speculated that the Mueller team added this language “to give it political cover” to protect his investigation and allow it to continue without interference from the White House. There is also the slight possibility that this is an indictment which stated the facts required to be truthful to the court and that there is no evidence of collusion.....snip~ SAME LINK.
    I didn't know, nor has it been published, that the WH is interfering with a damned thing................
    If CNN doesn't get off that broken wagon, they'll find themselves short. Just think of the ratings if they suddenly changed their story towards accuracy instead of smearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    I didn't know, nor has it been published, that the WH is interfering with a damned thing................
    If CNN doesn't get off that broken wagon, they'll find themselves short. Just think of the ratings if they suddenly changed their story towards accuracy instead of smearing.
    Lets hope they don't change anything up.....I rather see them go down in history as the joke of the neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Ah, yet another desperate "trump didn't do it" thread.

    Enjoy.
    We do. You're the one who's going to have a fit when Mueller comes up empty. Oh, wait, he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    We do. You're the one who's going to have a fit when Mueller comes up empty. Oh, wait, he did.
    South Carolina! Home of 5th grade drop out knuckle draggers..
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I digress....

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