Arming teachers in the classroom will cost kids' lives

[gamewell45]

I stumbled across an opinion piece regarding the proposed arming of teachers in the classroom. I read the entire piece and found the authors rationalization to very sound. Some might shoot it down before reading it, however for those who do read it , it'll show a rational opinion from someone who served our country in Iraq and has a lot of experience firing a weapon with the intent to kill.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/a...icle-1.3835411

[Peter1469]

It is better than having a gun free zone. The guy mentioned tunnel vision when engaging the enemy. You avoid that by breathing deeply.

The coach that used his body as a shield would have been better off with a carry conceal weapon.

[zelmo1234]

He is correct, all those things can happen, but they may not happen. The people that give their lives to protect these kids, It would not likely happen to them. it could but not likely.

I am speaking as a person that has trained hundreds of law enforcement officers on Active shooter Training. What I can tell you is that if you think that our police officers are training on this everyday, you are very mistaken.

With Teachers having over 2 months off in the summer, it would be very easy to put them through the same training that Local and State police officers have been through.

NOW WHAT HE IS NOT TELLING YOU.

OK now we know all of the bad things that could happen to a Teacher trying to stop a threat. What he did not tell you is that as soon as the first return fire shot is taken at the shooter? All of those bad things are likely to happen to him as well.

From the instant that the active shooter hears that first return fire shot, his or her world has completely changed. Because he has to address the threat instead of just shooting fish in a barrel. This means that all of the children that are down range, are no longer his primary target. As a matter of fact he or she is likely not shooting at them but looking to take down the threat to the very thing that he or she wants the most and that is

Add to this the fact that potential shooters only know that the school is protected by trained people with guns and they are not likely going to be willing to take the chance in having a teacher steal their glory

[nathanbforrest45]

Obviously, not having a gun in the class room can and does result in far more kids being killed.

[MisterVeritis]

I stumbled across an opinion piece regarding the proposed arming of teachers in the classroom. I read the entire piece and found the authors rationalization to very sound. Some might shoot it down before reading it, however for those who do read it , it'll show a rational opinion from someone who served our country in Iraq and has a lot of experience firing a weapon with the intent to kill.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/a...icle-1.3835411

Despite his protests based on his personal experience good guys with guns manage to do the right thing well enough every day. The simple presence of armed teachers and staffs goes a long ways toward ensuring the weapons will not be needed.

The author is fundamentally wrong. I am certain he was a good fit for the Obama Administration.

[gamewell45]

It is better than having a gun free zone. The guy mentioned tunnel vision when engaging the enemy. You avoid that by breathing deeply.

The coach that used his body as a shield would have been better off with a carry conceal weapon.

You know, when you mentioned the coach carrying a concealed weapon it made me wonder what does a woman do if she's wearing a dress? How would she conceal her weapon?

[zelmo1234]

You know, when you mentioned the coach carrying a concealed weapon it made me wonder what does a woman do if she's wearing a dress? How would she conceal her weapon?

[Adelaide]

If you break down the deaths where firearms were involved it is statistically much more likely that having armed teachers would result in accidental deaths. They also are not trained and regularly using a weapon like a police officer would be, to use an example. Even police officers make mistakes and shoot people who are not doing anything wrong (like grabbing a cell phone).

Then there is the issue of liability when (not if) a teacher accidentally kills or maims a student who wasn't doing anything.

School shootings are not statistically a major cause of death in the breakdown of firearm-related deaths. The hysteria to arm teachers is pretty unwarranted and it probably would not stop a school shooter who doesn't give a crap if anyone is armed and who is more likely to show up with fairly heavy-duty firearms.

[zelmo1234]

If you break down the deaths where firearms were involved it is statistically much more likely that having armed teachers would result in accidental deaths. They also are not trained and regularly using a weapon like a police officer would be, to use an example. Even police officers make mistakes and shoot people who are not doing anything wrong (like grabbing a cell phone).

Then there is the issue of liability when (not if) a teacher accidentally kills or maims a student who wasn't doing anything.

School shootings are not statistically a major cause of death in the breakdown of firearm-related deaths. The hysteria to arm teachers is pretty unwarranted and it probably would not stop a school shooter who doesn't give a crap if anyone is armed and who is more likely to show up with fairly heavy-duty firearms.

There are a few things here that I think would surprise you.

#1 How little training there is for police officers that do not seek it out themselves

#2 Just because Teachers have not been trained does not mean that they could not be trained I can't think of an easier group to train because of the fact that they have summers off.

#3 we are not asking teachers to go out on the street and search for bad guys and criminals, they don't have to hunt down people that have committed crimes. What we would be asking them to do is if there is a person shooting at students? shoot back

#4 And this one is huge. These monsters are doing this and selecting these locations because they are in fac gun free zones.

they want to be notices and they want to be on TV The last thing that they want is a hero teacher stealing their thunder. There is a reason these shootings don't happened in blue, they are selected targets and they all have one thing in common. Gun free zone.

[gamewell45]

I'd imagine that would work unless the teacher has weight issues.