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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Obviously, if you're a Trump fan, you're going to hate this movie on every level.
    Why is that?
    Gentlemen and ladies, I hate inflation, I hate taxes, and I hate Communism. Do something about it.” Ronald Reagan's instructions to his first assembled Cabinet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Have you seen it, @Safety? I was particularly interested in your opinion.
    I was not planning on seeing it, but my son wanted to watch it, so I took him last Sunday. All in all it was a good movie, on par with what to expect from Marvel in regards to them keeping in line with the comics. There were several parts where the comments made were not necessary, but that is to be expected in the political we are in today.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Ethereal wrote:
    This genre tends to be overrated, in my opinion. They always gush over big-budget, superhero movies and they always disappoint me. I'm not saying they aren't entertaining, but they are nowhere near as good as they are made out to be. I expect Indiana Jones: The Last Crusade and wind up getting Gremlins 2 instead. You may recall that I had similar feelings towards Wonder Woman...

    Incidentally, Wonder Woman was actually one of the better big-budget, superhero movies, but I wasn't the least bit moved by it. It's just a really hot chick running around Europe kicking the shit out of German soldiers. Fun to watch, but hardly Schindler's List.

    If I seem bitter, it's because I am. I resent all this money being spent on superhero action movies.
    All I can tell you is that it beat out my expectations in every area.

    I have a very different take on Wonder Woman incidentally, though. I think it was the most popular with my generation for a reason: because it is, allegorically, the story of my generation. It's the story of one who grows up in peace and prosperity, only to have that disrupted by a plane crash that leads directly into a "war without end" (sound familiar?), whereupon one goes on to learn that the world actually kind of sucks, people are dishonest and cruel and defeatist and even pacifists aren't sincere, and find yourself challenged by the lure of cynicism resultantly. How do you navigate that? How do you shed your naivety without devolving into cynicism and misanthropy? That's how I read it anyway.

    Ignoring skin color = prejudice

    Interesting theory.

    I was talking about your predetermined opinion of the movie. Though I was amused by the citation of MLK to justify that prejudice. That was sufficiently arrogant to be hilarious, I felt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    I was not planning on seeing it, but my son wanted to watch it, so I took him last Sunday. All in all it was a good movie, on par with what to expect from Marvel in regards to them keeping in line with the comics. There were several parts where the comments made were not necessary, but that is to be expected in the political we are in today.
    Do you think it captured the essence of blackness?
    Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.


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    It sounds like a great movie to watch when I am flying to Europe on a 7 hour flight. And that is not a dig at the movie. The last movie that I saw not in an airplane was the Lone Survivor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    All I can tell you is that it beat out my expectations in every area.

    I have a very different take on Wonder Woman incidentally, though. I think it was the most popular with my generation for a reason: because it is, allegorically, the story of my generation. It's the story of one who grows up in peace and prosperity, only to have that disrupted by a plane crash that leads directly into a "war without end" (sound familiar?), whereupon one goes on to learn that the world actually kind of sucks, people are dishonest and cruel and defeatist and even pacifists aren't sincere, and find yourself challenged by the lure of cynicism resultantly. How do you navigate that? How do you shed your naivety without devolving into cynicism and misanthropy? That's how I read it anyway.
    I'm pretty sure we're the same generation.

    Anyway, those questions may have been asked by the movie, but it provided no meaningful examination or answer. It just posed a problem (in the form of cartoonishly evil Germans) and then solved it through formulaic ass-kicking. In other words, it was just another big-budget, superhero film. The fact that it may have had some semblance of a subtext does not really change that.

    I was talking about your predetermined opinion of the movie. Though I was amused by the citation of MLK to justify that prejudice. That was sufficiently arrogant to be hilarious, I felt.
    Why is it arrogant? MLK told us not to judge people by their skin color and that's what I'm doing. I don't care how many "black people" a movie has in it because the skin color of the people in a movie does not influence how I feel about it. My "prejudice" towards the film is based on historical evidence and trends, not skin color. That is why I said MLK would approve.
    Two things awe me most, the starry sky above me and the moral law within me.
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    Ethereal wrote:
    Anyway, those questions may have been asked by the movie, but it provided no meaningful examination or answer. It just posed a problem (in the form of cartoonishly evil Germans) and then solved it through formulaic ass-kicking. In other words, it was just another big-budget, superhero film. The fact that it may have had some semblance of a subtext does not really change that.
    The film's conclusion is, in essence, that we have to both judge people individually and try to influence the direction of things for the better. I think that conclusion is simplistic and has real limits, but is a good place to start.

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