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    Cletus wrote:
    You really should look into the background of the author before you start singing his praises. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons. He has no credibility on this subject.
    The fact is that the author's opinion seems to be pretty representative here, and not just of the Democratic historians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    The very fact that he would claim Trump to be one of the worst Presidents in history just over year into his administration is enough to establish his bias. His close personal friendship with the Clintons is also no secret.
    Maybe he has seen enough in his first year to make that assessment. Some people are smart enough to see a $#@! sandwich for what it is without having to taste it.
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    Truly laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    The fact is that the author's opinion seems to be pretty representative here, and not just of the Democratic historians.
    Nonsense.

    No self respecting historian would speculate on this. Historians study the past. It is ridiculous for someone to claim to be able to make a scholarly analysis of Trump's administration a little over a year into his first term.
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    Sounds to me more like historians creating history.


    (The links go to the NYT which is a pay site.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sounds to me more like historians creating history.

    (The links go to the NYT which is a pay site.)
    his opinion cost money? How Clintonesque
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    These lists have always been driven by the ideological biases of the historians. And as most historians are academics, their biases lean heavily towards partisan liberalism. I would have thought, however, that they would at least have the sense to refrain from ranking Trump so low until AFTER he has actually finished his presidency. Apparently, they are so animated by deranged hatred of Trump, that they abandoned any semblance of academic integrity they might have had left just to bash Trump.
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    USA Today gives a different view: History experts in New York Times op-ed: Trump worst president ever, Obama in top 10:

    Donald Trump is America's worst president, says a New York Times opinion piece that's based on a survey of 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section.

    The survey was conducted by Brandon Rottinghaus, a professor of political science at the University of Houston, and Justin S. Vaughn, an associate professor of political science and director of the Center for Idaho History and Politics at Boise State University.

    ...The authors say Trump has, at least, the most room for improvement when another survey is taken.

    "Trump’s initial rating places him in an ignominious category, but dozens of presidents have had slow starts and have course corrected to improve their public esteem,'' Rottinghaus and Vaughn wrote. "Beyond his reputation or ranking, Donald Trump’s very presidency may alter perceptions of presidential legacies as his unique approach to the office continues to surprise.''

    Not, apparently, historian experts.

    Not, apparently, unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Maybe he has seen enough in his first year to make that assessment. Some people are smart enough to see a $#@! sandwich for what it is without having to taste it.
    You cashed your last paycheck showing the higher net take-home money... yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    The very fact that he would claim Trump to be one of the worst Presidents in history just over year into his administration is enough to establish his bias. His close personal friendship with the Clintons is also no secret.
    Great Point that I didnt even think of, that says it all
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