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    Chris wrote:
    (The links go to the NYT which is a pay site.)
    Why do you lie, Chris? I accessed both articles without paying a cent. You only have to pay if you access NYT articles constantly.

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    Heritage: Donald Trump has achieved more than Ronald Reagan in first year.....


    President Trump entered the Oval Office as a populist question mark. But after a year, the conservative Heritage Foundation now trumpets that Trump has a more conservative track record than Ronald Reagan at least according to their standards.


    Trump adopted two-thirds, or about 64 percent, of the Heritage agenda, meaning that the administration copied and pasted 334 of the think tank’s unique policy proposals. By comparison, the New York Times reports, Reagan adopted just 49 percent of the Heritage agenda making 2017 a banner year for Heritage.


    Heritage welcomed Trump with open arms. He needed a detailed agenda and they had a stockpile of policy proposals ready to roll. And so, in the absence of his own ideas, the ideological wildcard of an executive adopted the ideas of the biggest conservative think tank in Washington.


    From its Capitol Hill campus, Heritage has cast a long shadow over Washington policy fights. The fact that Trump has taken up their agenda speaks to their continued influence. The fact that Heritage brass mentions Trump in the same breath as Reagan reflects the state of modern pragmatic conservatism.


    Setting aside the fact that understanding the limits of government is a prerequisite to our constitutional republic, the right seems to measure conservatism as opposition. Never mind that Reagan was able to appeal to permanent principle while simultaneously winning passing policies. What’s needed now, the conservative consensus seems to have concluded, is someone willing to tear down the status quo of the administrative state. In Trump, Heritage has found that champion......snip~


    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/he...rticle/2646849


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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Why do you lie, Chris? I accessed both articles without paying a cent. You only have to pay if you access NYT articles constantly.
    Why do you lie, Polly?



    You get a limited number of free reads before being blocked by a pay wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    You really should look into the background of the author before you start singing his praises. He is a close personal friend of the Clintons. He has no credibility on this subject.
    It's much worse. Here is the source report: Official Results of the 2018 Presidents & Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey (.pdf)

    There is more interesting variation when we move our comparison to the different
    partisan and ideological groups within the 2018 survey. In order to identify these groups, we
    asked respondents two questions. The first asked which political party the respondent
    considered themselves a part of. The results showed that 57.2% (95/166) of respondents were
    Democrats, while 12.7% were Republicans (21/166), 27.1% were Independents (45/166), and
    3% (5/166) selected Other as their option. The second question asked whether the respondent
    ideologically considered themselves to be liberal, somewhat liberal, moderate, somewhat
    conservative, or conservative. The results of this question showed that 32.5% (54/166) consider
    themselves ideologically liberal, while 25.9% (43/166) consider themselves somewhat liberal,
    and 24.1% consider themselves moderate (40/166). Only 5.4% (9/166) consider themselves
    ideologically conservative, while 12% (20/166) say they are somewhat conservative.

    Interestingly, there is no meaningful difference between the rankings generated by selfidentified
    Moderates and the overall ranking. Moreover, because they make up such a large
    percentage of the sample, there is little variation between the overall ranking and those of just
    Democrats and those who identify as liberal or somewhat liberal. In fact, there is only one
    noteworthy difference2 – both groups rank Ronald Reagan as 14th, compared to his overall
    rating of 9th. There is somewhat more variation between those who responded to the partisan
    identification question by selecting either Independent or Other. This group ranked Barack
    Obama as 12th, compared to his overall rating of 8th, while their ranking of George H.W. Bush
    rose to 11th, compared to his lower overall ranking of 17th. Independents/Others also ranked
    Jimmy Carter less favorably than the overall list, placing him at 32nd, down six places from his
    perch at 26th on the overall list.

    Talk about bias.


    And what metric was used to measure presidents? None but mere personal opinion: " To do this, we first asked respondents to rate each president on a scale of 0-100 for their overall greatness, with 0=failure, 50=average, and 100=great."
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    Chris wrote:
    You get a limited number of free reads before being blocked by a pay wall.
    That's EXACTLY what I just said!

    "I accessed both articles without paying a cent. You only have to pay if you access NYT articles constantly."

    You must read more of their articles than I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    That's EXACTLY what I just said!

    "I accessed both articles without paying a cent. You only have to pay if you access NYT articles constantly."

    You must read more of their articles than I do.
    Actually, it's what I said. You contradicted yourself. Don't call people liars so easily.
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    Heritage: Donald Trump has achieved more than Ronald Reagan in first year.....


    President Trump entered the Oval Office as a populist question mark. But after a year, the conservative Heritage Foundation now trumpets that Trump has a more conservative track record than Ronald Reagan at least according to their standards.


    Trump adopted two-thirds, or about 64 percent, of the Heritage agenda, meaning that the administration copied and pasted 334 of the think tank’s unique policy proposals. By comparison, the New York Times reports, Reagan adopted just 49 percent of the Heritage agenda making 2017 a banner year for Heritage.


    Heritage welcomed Trump with open arms. He needed a detailed agenda and they had a stockpile of policy proposals ready to roll. And so, in the absence of his own ideas, the ideological wildcard of an executive adopted the ideas of the biggest conservative think tank in Washington.


    From its Capitol Hill campus, Heritage has cast a long shadow over Washington policy fights. The fact that Trump has taken up their agenda speaks to their continued influence. The fact that Heritage brass mentions Trump in the same breath as Reagan reflects the state of modern pragmatic conservatism.


    Setting aside the fact that understanding the limits of government is a prerequisite to our constitutional republic, the right seems to measure conservatism as opposition. Never mind that Reagan was able to appeal to permanent principle while simultaneously winning passing policies. What’s needed now, the conservative consensus seems to have concluded, is someone willing to tear down the status quo of the administrative state. In Trump, Heritage has found that champion......snip~


    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/he...rticle/2646849


    They're not historians.....but what they are preaching is known as.....what is called reality.
    Lol, you realize that that article pretty much says trump is too stupid to have his own agenda right?
    People who think a movie about plastic dolls is trying to turn their kids gay or trans are now officially known as

    Barbie Q’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    American historians have recently ranked Donald Trump our worst president to date. There is, as you might imagine, some disagreement that breaks down along partisan lines in these surveys of the experts, but even the Republican historians still rank Trump among the worst five we've ever had.

    Some might argue that it's unfair to include Trump in these rankings based on only a single year in office, and particularly unfair to rank him the absolute worst president in U.S. history considering that he hasn't yet led us into any true national catastrophes like say a civil war or an event like the Great Depression, for example. But clearly historians look at this administration and see great potential.
    I know your OP is totally false because the absolute worse was Carter for letting Americans sit in Iran for 444 days. There is no doubt in American minds. You have any idea how long 444 days is? Yes, yes, yes, I know it is a year and almost three months.

    YOU, IMPress Polly, go sit in a prison somewhere for that length of time not knowing if today is your last or maybe tomorrow. Wha da H is wrong with you posting such dribble about Trump? You aren't old enough to even remember those 444 days aren't you? You make me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Lol, you realize that that article pretty much says trump is too stupid to have his own agenda right?
    Uh, no, it doesn't. If it did it wouldn't be based in the study it reports of polysci profs giving opinions who's the greatest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Lol, you realize that that article pretty much says trump is too stupid to have his own agenda right?

    LMAO, you do realize that means Trump was smart enough to know what works. Knowing that anything the leftness was advocating was an automatic failure.
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