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What are the lies and exaggerations you are talking about? The story is about the MS13 gang are you saying that it does not exist?Originally Posted by Bo-4
Your links do not deny MS13 exists, they say that Trump exaggerates the numbers deported so far.
Nothing in those links goes against any of the OP
"The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction." James Madison 1788
Ravens Fan (03-13-2018)
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Merkel has issues obviously - she too needs to be fact checked.
In another thread I said that Theresa May was a leader who has the balls to be tough on Russia.
Angela is weak tea
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Where did I say they didn't exist? Of course they exist.
What I said is that Trump is doing what he ALWAYS does - EXAGGERATING their danger and their numbers.
He loves to equate all illegal immigrants with gang members, rapists and killers.
And you guys fall for it - Sad
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Russian tea!
I'm sorry but our political climate is a joke. You are so easily led and lied to.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Captdon (03-13-2018)
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According to the NYT and Belgium’s home affairs minister They ran the following first reported in the UKCorrect - There is no such thing as a no go zone
Caliph-AIN'T
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sh...m-no-go-zones/
You're learning D .. Stick with me and you'll learn even more!
"Belgian Minister Says Government Lacks Control Over Neighborhood Linked to Terror PlotsBelgium’s home affairs minister said that the government does not “have control of the situation in Molenbeek,” a working-class neighborhood of Brussels that has been linked to several terrorism plots in recent years.According to the UK Independent the Belgian neighborhood in question, Molenbeek, is not only a Mulsim No-Go-Zone, it was home to the brother of one of the Paris suspects — and two of the gunmen:"
Speaking on the VRT television channel on Sunday, the minister, Jan Jambon, said that the government would “step up efforts” to bring order to the area of the Belgian capital.
ABC ran this "Muslim in Paris: Life inside the 'No-Go' zones" "
PARIS (KABC) --
As the international attention is directed towards Paris following terrorist attacks from Islamic radicals, the spotlight is showing glimpses of what it's like to be a Muslim within the City of Light.
ABC7's David Ono is on the ground in Paris and traveled to a Muslim community commonly known among the locals as a "No-Go" zone.
In other words, it's a place you don't want to live or be there.
"Some of the places, you know, you might get into some trouble at night," said Gil Soltz, who grew up in San Bernardino.
Soltz now lives in Paris and he took our crew into a "No-Go" zone which was 100 percent Muslim.
"There's probably some drug trade on this street," Soltz explained."
Another UK paper says "EUROPE'S NO-GO ZONES: List of 900 EU areas where police have 'LOST CONTROL' to migrants" "London, Paris, Stockholm and Berlin are among the major European cities that feature on a bombshell list of 900 lawless zones with large immigrant populations."
So are all of these people wrong?
"The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction." James Madison 1788
Peter1469 (03-13-2018)
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I'm curious D - What are your top 3 sources for political news?Russian tea!
I'm sorry but our political climate is a joke. You are so easily led and lied to.
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No your links say Trump exaggerated how many have been deported, not the numbers in the Gang or the danger the represent.
Lets go with the FBI Threat assessment shall we?
The MS-13 Threat
A National Assessment
They perpetrate violence—from assaults to homicides, using firearms, machetes, or blunt objects—to intimidate rival gangs, law enforcement, and the general public. They often target middle and high school students for recruitment. And they form tenuous alliances...and sometimes vicious rivalries...with other criminal groups, depending on their needs at the time. Who are they? Members of Mara Salvatrucha, better known as MS-13, who are mostly Salvadoran nationals or first generation Salvadoran-Americans, but also Hondurans, Guatemalans, Mexicans, and other Central and South American immigrants. And according to our recent national threat assessment of this growing, mobile street gang, they could be operating in your community...now or in the near future.
Based on information from our own investigations, from our state and local law enforcement partners, and from community organizations, we’ve concluded that while the threat posed by MS-13 to the U.S. as a whole is at the “medium” level, membership in parts of the country is so concentrated that we’ve labeled the threat level there “high.”
Here are some other highlights from our threat assessment:
MS-13 operates in at least 42 states and the District of Columbia and has about 6,000-10,000 members nationwide. Currently, the threat is highest in the western and northeastern parts of the country, which coincides with elevated Salvadoran immigrant populations in those areas. In the southeast and central regions, the current threat is moderate to low, but recently, we’ve seen an influx of MS-13 members into the southeast, causing an increase in violent crimes there
MS-13 members engage in a wide range of criminal activity, including drug distribution, murder, rape, prostitution, robbery, home invasions, immigration offenses, kidnapping, carjackings/auto thefts, and vandalism. Most of these crimes, you’ll notice, have one thing in common—they are exceedingly violent. And while most of the violence is directed toward other MS-13 members or rival street gangs, innocent citizens often get caught in the crossfire.
MS-13 is expanding its membership at a “moderate” rate through recruitment and migration. Some MS-13 members move to get jobs or to be near family members—currently, the southeast and the northeast are seeing the largest increases in membership. MS-13 often recruits new members by glorifying the gang lifestyle (often on the Internet, complete with pictures and videos) and by absorbing smaller gangs.
Speaking of employment, MS-13 members typically work for legitimate businesses by presenting false documentation. They primarily pick employers that don’t scrutinize employment documents, especially in the construction, restaurant, delivery service, and landscaping industries.
So you think the threat is exaggerated?
"The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction." James Madison 1788
Ravens Fan (03-13-2018)
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He's a propaganda tool and not a sharp one.Russian tea!
I'm sorry but our political climate is a joke. You are so easily led and lied to.
Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
Pick your enemies carefully.
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I don't read much "news", Bo.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
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I dont pay any attention when he makes those statementsYeah, MS-13 crimes are a myth like no go zones.
LETS GO BRANDON
F Joe Biden
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