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    The first incident

    Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

    Most likely the first of many if we attempt to arm educators.
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    Versus the untrained teacher who just had to resort to his girth to protect his students.

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    IOW, if the solution in and of itself is not the one single perfect solution then it would not be a solution at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Gun-trained teacher accidentally discharges firearm in Calif. classroom, injuring student

    Most likely the first of many if we attempt to arm educators.
    Now Crepitus, you could spend the next three years providing cases of this happening, and the hard right will not understand the point you are making. They will instead attempt to deflect, obfuscate, or play games with semantics about generalizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Now Crepitus, you could spend the next three years providing cases of this happening, and the hard right will not understand the point you are making. They will instead attempt to deflect, obfuscate, or play games with semantics about generalizations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    IOW, if the solution in and of itself is not the one single perfect solution then it would not be a solution at all?
    Gee @Chris, you mean like banning the sale of semi-auto rifles? Or raising the purchasing age? or any one of the other solutions you and others have poohooed because they aren't perfect?

    Well I got news for you: Those policies will almost certainly lead to less shootings, not more, as arming teachers will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Gee @Chris, you mean like banning the sale of semi-auto rifles? Or raising the purchasing age? or any one of the other solutions you and others have poohooed because they aren't perfect?

    Well I got news for you: Those policies will almost certainly lead to less shootings, not more, as arming teachers will.

    Right, using the logic of the OP, none of the solutions you advocate are perfect, so they should be abandoned.


    Those policies will almost certainly lead to less shootings, not more, as arming teachers will.
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    The hard right understands the point. We're obviously going to have to train teachers better....and the teacher I don't think should carry the weapon, merely have fingerprint access to it. The hard left needs to realize that our children are just as important as the stars with armed security, the red carpet at the Oscars, or our public properties such as the White House or Capital Hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Right, using the logic of the OP, none of the solutions you advocate are perfect, so they should be abandoned.




    Like so many lefties, big claim, no argument.
    So, how many shootings the the 1984 assault weapons ban lead to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Now Crepitus, you could spend the next three years providing cases of this happening, and the hard right will not understand the point you are making. They will instead attempt to deflect, obfuscate, or play games with semantics about generalizations.

    That generalization concerns many cases is not semantics. So who exactly is playing those games but you.
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