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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    In all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars.
    Still waiting for the shooting war between WORLD POWERS that was NOT a "proxy war", and was not total war....
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    In all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Still waiting for the shooting war between WORLD POWERS that was NOT a "proxy war", and was not total war....
    In all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars. The weight of history supports my contention, not yours. What example would you like? Would all of the wars between France and England over 300 years be sufficient? Would all of the wars between the Mongols and China be sufficient? Those were world powers, I mean WORLD POWERS.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    In all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars.

    In all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars. The weight of history supports my contention, not yours. What example would you like? Would all of the wars between France and England over 300 years be sufficient? Would all of the wars between the Mongols and China be sufficient? Those were world powers, I mean WORLD POWERS.
    My contention was that ANY shooting, non "proxy" war between WORLD POWERS,( in today's world that would be the US, Britain, Red China, Russia and Germany) becomes a total war.

    You have yet to disprove that assertion.
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    n all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars. The weight of history supports my contention, not yours. What example would you like? Would all of the wars between France and England over 300 years be sufficient? Would all of the wars between the Mongols and China be sufficient? Those were world powers, I mean WORLD POWERS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    My contention was that ANY shooting, non "proxy" war between WORLD POWERS,( in today's world that would be the US, Britain, Red China, Russia and Germany) becomes a total war.
    You have yet to disprove that assertion.
    Your assertion/contention is nonsensical. It is an article of faith for you, nothing more. See above. Also, if you have a mind for some heavy lifting read what Clausewitz has to say about total wars.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Vladimir Putin has tried, also, to assassinate a former spy and his daughter, in the UK.

    The proper response to this, I think, would be for Britons to entirely boycott Russian oil--even if that would mean paying a few cents more at the pump.

    There is yet another interesting suggestion that I have heard--and it is not an "either/or" sort of thing; I would favor both--and that is to freeze all of Putin's assets (which, reportedly, are not in his own name, but in the names of his oligarchs). In other words, hit him in the wallet--and very hard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    n all of recorded history, we have had almost no total wars. The weight of history supports my contention, not yours. What example would you like? Would all of the wars between France and England over 300 years be sufficient? Would all of the wars between the Mongols and China be sufficient? Those were world powers, I mean WORLD POWERS.

    Your assertion/contention is nonsensical. It is an article of faith for you, nothing more. See above. Also, if you have a mind for some heavy lifting read what Clausewitz has to say about total wars.
    He's entitled to his opinion. Your tacit admission that you cannot refute my point is obvious. No, it is NOT "NONSENSICAL"; it is a HISTORIC TRUTH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    We disagree. We have had almost no total wars in the history of warfare.
    Then we are not communicating.

    For everyone else, WWII was the last war of necessity that the US engaged in (as we fought it, not how we got into it). What we have seen since are wars of choice, or police actions to achieve limited goals.
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    Total war is not a mysterious term. It refers to all of society being invested into the war effort.

    Some people believe it means total destruction of the other side. That is not true.
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    And no direct shooting conflict between world powers has ever wound up short of total war.
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    It's all silly grandstanding anyway. A handful of Russian civilians posting incoherent memes didn't have an effect on the election.

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