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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    I am actually a rabbit. Claiming I must be human is only a specie centric view of life. I demand to be allowed all the rights and privileges of rabbithood.
    I am declaring myself to be 25 years old with mad athletic skills a PHD and movie star good looks

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    over whether one's gender (as contrasted with one's biological sex) is innate or instead a social construct
    Gender is male or female as determined by chromosomes. Society doesn't invent biology.


    The entire notion of "feminist gender war" is oxymoronic, feminist implies female. Are we to understand then that we are seeing a shift from feminists against males to against females?



    Other language that's confusing is "radicals" vs "liberals" as liberals are, generally, radicals.



    All this postmodern confusion is a bit much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    I am actually a rabbit. Claiming I must be human is only a specie centric view of life. I demand to be allowed all the rights and privileges of rabbithood.

    Exactly, where does the fantasy stop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Exactly, where does the fantasy stop?
    It ends in a stew pot.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Another contradiction: If gender is a social construct then individuals don't get to choose your gender, society chooses for you.
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    This is all so silly. A once proud nation.
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    A Guide for the Gender-Perplexed is a review of Ryan T. Anderson’s new book, When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment.

    ...In our transgender moment, as Anderson calls it, bullying is the favored method of advancing the cause. It is, after all, easier than debating a change in government policy. Laymen, ordinary citizens, are generally unaware of the extent to which the vocations of medicine, psychology, and psychiatry have been overrun by cultural warriors, especially through their professional organizations. Politicized psychologists and psychiatrists are quick to flash their guild cards the moment an uncredentialed skeptic questions their “scientific” findings, no matter how implausible.

    No less a personage than the director of the Center for Child and Adolescent Gender Care at Duke University, Dr. Deanna Adkins, can make claims like this about “gender identity”—the feeling we all carry within us about whether we are a man or a woman—and face only the mildest dissent from her peers: Gender identity, she declares, is “the only medically supported determinant of sex.” In other words, the doctor says, we are what we think we are rather than what we are.

    Nobody likes to argue with a doctor. But surely that can’t be right, can it? What about chromosomes, genetic makeup, sexual organs? For that matter, what about reality—the world that exists beyond our feelings about the world? Adkins, like her fellow warriors in the transgender cause, doesn’t cite research or medical evidence for her claim. That’s just as well. For at bottom it is not a medical claim at all. It is a metaphysical claim—an assertion about the nature of what’s real. And what is most striking about it is its sheer incoherence.

    As he toys around with all the contradictions of transgender ideology, Anderson makes better use of his doctorate in philosophy than Adkins makes of hers in medicine:
    Why should feeling like a man—whatever that means—make someone a man? Why do our feelings determine reality on the question of sex, but on little else? Our feelings don’t determine our age or our height. .  .  . If those who identify as transgender are the sex with which they identify, why doesn’t that apply to other attributes or categories of being? What about people who identify as animals, or able-bodied people who identify as disabled? Do all of these self-professed identities determine reality? If not, why not? .  .  . The challenge for activists is to explain why a person’s “real” sex is determined by an inner “gender identity,” but age and height and race and species are not determined by an inner sense of identity.

    From the transgender philosophy, Anderson moves on to the strong-arming and shaming tactics of the activists, and from there to the research. In the field of transgenderism, research is sparse. And much of what there is of it is tailored to conclusions that advance the cause. None of it is dispositive for either side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    A Guide for the Gender-Perplexed is a review of Ryan T. Anderson’s new book, When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment.
    I have come to the conclusion that long quote boxes suck. Use quotes instead. Quote boxes stop conversations cold.
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    Wait wait wait. I just realized I can't be a rabbit. I am bald so no hare for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Gender is male or female as determined by chromosomes. Society doesn't invent biology.


    The entire notion of "feminist gender war" is oxymoronic, feminist implies female. Are we to understand then that we are seeing a shift from feminists against males to against females?



    Other language that's confusing is "radicals" vs "liberals" as liberals are, generally, radicals.



    All this postmodern confusion is a bit much.

    a shift to feminist against men even if those men want to be women. They don't need men. Except for you know, construction, farming, doing most of the driving ( especially of trucks) , the military defense , utility services including electricity and water, police agencies .
    You know to do needless things like grow and move food and other products , electricity, defense from invasion, dealing with crime. They'd be fine without us if it weren't for ALL their basic needs and security. . LOL

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