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    Blacks in Power Don't Empower Blacks

    Government/politics is not the solution.

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    That seems to be true. Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton are just 'race baiters' and tell blacks how the White Devil keeps them down. Not constructive at all!

    There is no leader like MLK today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Government/politics is not the solution.

    that's for sure. We can look to Chicago for this...........or look at Mad Maxine's district.
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    Walter Williams comments, Black Political Power Means Zilch:

    ...In a PragerU video, “Blacks in Power Don’t Empower Blacks,” Riley says the conventional wisdom was based on the notion that only black politicians could understand and address the challenges facing blacks. Therefore, electing more black city councilors, mayors, representatives and senators was deemed critical. Even some liberal social scientists now disagree. Gary Orfield says, “There may be little relationship between the success of … black leaders and the opportunities of typical black families.” Riley says that while many black politicians achieved considerable personal success, many of their constituents did not.

    After the 2014 Ferguson, Missouri, riots, which followed the killing of Michael Brown after he charged a policeman, much was made of the small number of blacks on the city’s police force. Riley asks: If the racial composition of the police force is so important, how does one explain the Baltimore riots the following year after Freddie Gray died in police custody? Baltimore’s police force is 40 percent black. Its police commissioner is black. Its mayor is black, as is the majority of the City Council. What can be said of black political power in Baltimore can also be said of Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia, Washington, Atlanta and New Orleans. In these cities, blacks have been mayors, police chiefs, city councilors and superintendents of schools for decades.

    By contrast, when blacks had little political power, they made significant economic progress. During the 1940s and ‘50s, black labor force participation rates exceeded those of whites; black incomes grew much faster than white incomes. Between 1940 and 1950, black poverty rates fell by as much as 40 percent. Between 1940 and 1970, the number of blacks in middle-class professions quadrupled. Keep in mind that was before affirmative action programs. Riley says that racial gaps were narrowing without any special treatment for blacks. After the 1960s, the government began pouring trillions of dollars into various social programs. These programs discouraged marriage and also undermined the work ethic through open-ended welfare programs, helping keep poor people poor.

    The fact that political success is not a requirement for socio-economic success — and indeed may have an opposite effect — doesn’t apply only to blacks. American Jews, Italians, Germans, Japanese and Chinese attained economic power long before they had political power. By almost any measure of socio-economic success, Japanese and Chinese are at or near the top. Riley asks, “How many prominent Asian politicians can you name?” By contrast, Irish-Americans have long held significant political power yet were the slowest-rising of all immigrant groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Government/politics is not the solution.

    I think the blame card inhibits progress. For example I'm not black but I am recovering. Had I had a blame card handed to me when I quit drinking instead of people telling me all the work I had to do and how hard I had to look in that mirror. I'd of probably died drunk by now. Other immigrant groups tend to make generational gains. Remember when you tell someone that their plight is in someone else's fault you strongly imply that their actions cannot change their plight. So why bother?
    This is what the dems have been doing for years and then wondering why it didn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    I think the blame card inhibits progress. For example I'm not black but I am recovering. Had I had a blame card handed to me when I quit drinking instead of people telling me all the work I had to do and how hard I had to look in that mirror. I'd of probably died drunk by now. Other immigrant groups tend to make generational gains. Remember when you tell someone that their plight is in someone else's fault you strongly imply that their actions cannot change their plight. So why bother?
    This is what the dems have been doing for years and then wondering why it didn't work
    Sometimes, though, the blame is real and significant when it's institutional with the full force of the government behind it.
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