380 sheriffs in 40 states demand Congress build Trump’s wall,

[Dr. Who]

You are correct, that's how it got funded in the first place. The Secure Fence Act got the votes of Senators Schumer, Clinton, Obama, and many Republican Senators as well.

Many think that what's there now is enough, so getting buy-in for a very expensive replacement is a hard sell. I say take the politics out of it and let the people build it. Seems like a simple solution. Perhaps there are legalities that I am unaware of?

[Grokmaster]

Or we could stop studying the mating habits of crickets or ladybugs or whatever, and probably have more than enough.

I think that it is a National Security issue and that Congress needs to fund it, 25 Million is crumbs to the Federal Government. I don't care where the money comes from, don't care that Mexico will not be directly paying for it upfront, I just want our leaders to get serious about stopping illegal immigration, now. I am sure tons of the dreamers would like to have some peace of mind too, but since the left refuses to even be serious about the bigger immigration picture, I guess they will let that group of possible future voters be deported. Talk about sad.

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[Grokmaster]

Twenty-five billion dollars is a lot of money to earmark for a wall. Perhaps the feds should start a dedicated lottery to build the wall with tax-free prizes and a minimum $40M jackpot. $2 a ticket. If one-third of the population want the wall, they will be motivated to choose this lottery over Mega Millions or Powerball. That could be up to $200,000,000 or more in ticket purchases every week. Think about it. Take away $40M, each week still nets $8.3B a year. It took 3 years just to put up the fence. This wouldn't be unprecedented in the world of lotteries. Many fund infrastructure or other projects.

Not when weighed against the average cost of illegals on the US taxpayers.

[Dr. Who]

Not when weighed against the average cost of illegals on the US taxpayers.

Sometimes you need to think outside of the box. This wall does not have bi-partisan support. It doesn't even have 100% Republican support. However, if you suggest a lottery, that means that the people must choose to pay for it. What is Congress going to say - no, we can't allow the people to build the wall on their own dime if they so choose?

[Grokmaster]

Sometimes you need to think outside of the box. This wall does not have bi-partisan support. It doesn't even have 100% Republican support. However, if you suggest a lottery, that means that the people must choose to pay for it. What is Congress going to say - no, we can't allow the people to build the wall on their own dime if they so choose?

It won't need much "bipartisan support" once the electorate asswhips the Illegalocrats again, in November....it has MASSIVE SUPPORT amongst the American People.

[Common]

Twenty-five billion dollars is a lot of money to earmark for a wall. Perhaps the feds should start a dedicated lottery to build the wall with tax-free prizes and a minimum $40M jackpot. $2 a ticket. If one-third of the population want the wall, they will be motivated to choose this lottery over Mega Millions or Powerball. That could be up to $200,000,000 or more in ticket purchases every week. Think about it. Take away $40M, each week still nets $8.3B a year. It took 3 years just to put up the fence. This wouldn't be unprecedented in the world of lotteries. Many fund infrastructure or other projects.

Good Idea Doc but the liberas would say we were exploiting the poor because they tend to gamble more or something.
25billion is cheaper than paying for incarcerations and education and healthcare and pre natal and childbirths for illegals

[Common]

Many think that what's there now is enough, so getting buy-in for a very expensive replacement is a hard sell. I say take the politics out of it and let the people build it. Seems like a simple solution. Perhaps there are legalities that I am unaware of?

Its not a hardsell to the majority of americans

[Ransom]

Many think that what's there now is enough, so getting buy-in for a very expensive replacement is a hard sell. I say take the politics out of it and let the people build it. Seems like a simple solution. Perhaps there are legalities that I am unaware of?

The point I was making was fencing or a wall was never a hard sell until politics entered into the fray. The fact remains, all of the Senators mentioned supported border walls then....and all oppose now. Who is being political?

[Ransom]

It brings this Member humor when trillions are spent annually without a peep by many Members here on tpf.....but 25 billion and to build a wall that would last for decades seems a "lot of money."

Uh...yeah. And then this same Member claims we need to remove politics from the debate.



No, I'm not making that up. Am I Dr. Who?

[Dr. Who]

The point I was making was fencing or a wall was never a hard sell until politics entered into the fray. The fact remains, all of the Senators mentioned supported border walls then....and all oppose now. Who is being political?

Is the wall being funded? No, it's not. If you would rather gripe about liberals than get the wall built, make your own day. Given the current state of affairs in Congress, the wall will never be built and all of the finger pointing in the world won't change the state of political polarization or the fact that more than half of the country could not care less about a wall. I suggested a non-political solution that would likely attract even those who have no interest in a wall to participate. Shrug.