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    These are the facts of the matter:

    1. No one can prove the Syrians did it.

    2. The United States was about to pull out of the area.

    That's it. And when you consider those facts, the odds of the Syrian government doing something like this is practically zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    These are the facts of the matter:

    1. No one can prove the Syrians did it.

    2. The United States was about to pull out of the area.

    That's it. And when you consider those facts, the odds of the Syrian government doing something like this is practically zero.
    The VDC who reports to the UN says chems were used. Which they said it when the Rebels did it. When Assad did it before and when Daesh did it. Their Civilian accounts are Assads Aircraft. Which the Russians did not deny Assad was using his Airforce and or Choppers.


    Oh and the US wasn't going to pull out of the area. Trump said he wanted to pull out Troops. Then Mattis and Dunford explained why that wasn't going to happen and Then Trump dumped that Idea.


    So Assad and the Russians knew we weren't leaving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Which of the things you listed do you believe are vital interests. I did not see any.
    Explain out how Strategic Interests are not National Vital Interests when it concerns are enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    The outcomes in Syria....are of vital national interests. For example, it becomes an issue of vital national interest if say an ISIS was the winner in the Syrian Civil conflict and then begins to establish a caliphate. The outcome of vital national interest because the players already involved. Russia, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, and Syria not to mention terror groups from Hamas to Hezbollah, from al-Qaeda to ISIS.

    Peter, donttread, and Ethereal already provided us this lesson, MisterV. Those three would lecture to no end that any outcomes in Syria weren't in our vital national interests. Ethereal and Peter droning on about ISIS being no threat, donttread's nickname for the Islamic State was Boogeymen.....nonexistent made up by westerners mumbo jumbo. I remember donttread asking me not one month prior to the PAris attacks what possible threat ISIS could be against us. He's never ever asked that again. Not after those horrific attacks, donttread pretty much had to shut up. Eat his crow.
    Do you really think Russia wants some kind of caliphate in Syria? If they did, they wouldn't have bothered fighting the rebels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The VDC accused the rebels before of using chems. They also have accused Assad. They also Accused Daesh. So they don't have a problem reporting when and who is using them.
    The VDC are not an unbiased source of information. They are known to be anti-regime activists.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05...rs-really-say/
    http://acloserlookonsyria.shoutwiki....tions_in_Syria
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    Right now as we speak Syrian air defenses activated in response to missiles over Homs province; state media says Israel responsible for strikes

    It seems like they want the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Explain out how Strategic Interests are not National Vital Interests when it concerns are enemies.
    I have already given you the definitions of vital national interests and other national interests. I have no further interest in offering you idiot lessons. Catch up first.
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    Originally Posted by MMC:
    Well I cant think for Assad and I am not in his head to know what he is thinking. But lets look at this. Has Assad taken revenge against those who no longer want him in power?

    Did Assad take Revenge against the Syrian Muslim brotherhood which is a political group in Syria? Did he do so with other political groups and activists?


    Has Assad gone after civilians in regions that didn't vote for him to be in power? Did he take revenge on Civilians that gave comfort and aid to the Rebels?
    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    Well, if he had, considering they "gave comfort and aid to the Rebels" as you say it might be the way it was, then it was all a matter of who survives. But it didn't happen that way. So much for the constant efforts to distort the truth and still make it a right to bomb other countries trying to survive I.S.I.S. and the Zionist apparatus.

    What now if the dollar goes collapsing? Can't say what the future will be except that the Zionists will have lost. That's what happens when taking advantage of something for so long it finally destroys the host. They never gave any real thanks for all they have been given from so many angles, but instead used their grander positions to beat everyone else up over it.

    The world was sent to hell so a few could dominate. The hungry barely have bread. The head of the tail has made his own date with certain destinations. Zionism is finite. Inside the Bible, the prophets said God is against it and its every deceit. How whole populations have been majorly hurt because of it. How many good soldiers have been used fighting for the same lies to receive nothing for it!
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its not a question if he had. He did.

    Did you think Russia and Iran would allow the free flow of Oil to their enemies? Were you confused when Russia turned off the spiket for those Baltic States.


    So you prefer the Russian ruble or Iranians Rial for a global economy?
    What reality are you living in? The Russians already own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    What reality are you living in? The Russians already own.
    What do the Russians already own? They certainly aren't owning all the Oil coming out of the ME, and they do have to kiss some Iranian ass to get a deal from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I have already given you the definitions of vital national interests and other national interests. I have no further interest in offering you idiot lessons. Catch up first.
    So you don't know what Strategic Interests are when it concerns our Enemies. That is all you had to say. You don't know.

    Its okay that you don't know everything about National Vital Interests. No wrong in that.
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