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    Could these be some pieces to the puzzle. Captagon is a methamphetamine like drug given to isis soldiers to keep the awake battling for days without sleep fear or remorse. In 2015 saudi prince was busted with 2 tons of captagon. You use your own judgement. I am not sure about anything what so ever, just trying to look at all angles. Then recently the new Saudi prince visits the US, meets with Trump, and all of the same people who go to Bilderberg meetings to discuss the course of the world. So check it out and see if there might be any pieces to the puzzle that we might have missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    In the intelligence report just released by the French, they name three of the rebel groups fighting Assad (Ahrar al-Sham, Faylaq al-Rahman, and Jaysh al-Islam).

    But who are these rebels? What are their beliefs and objectives? For the answer, I went to Stanford University's Mapping Militant Organizations website. I will be highlighting key points from Stanford's analyses.

    Ahrar al-Sham
    • Ahrar al-Sham, also known as Harakat Ahrar al-Sham al-Islamiyya, or the Islamic Movement of the Free Men of the Levant, is a Sunni Salafist militant group operating in Syria that aims to replace the Assad Regime with an Islamic government
    • Since 2012, Ahrar al-Sham has primarily coordinated attacks against the Syrian army and other militants sympathetic to the Assad Regime with Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (Tahrir al-Sham), formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra
    • The U.S. Director of National Intelligence considers Ahrar al-Sham and Tahrir al-Sham among the most effective Syrian opposition groups
    • Ahrar al-Sham worked with the Islamic State (IS) until January 2014
    • Abu Khalid al-Suri (Unknown to February 23, 2014): Suri, also known as Abu Omeir al-Shami, was one of Ahrar al-Sham’s co-founders. He also acted as Al Qaeda’s (AQ) representative in Syria and was charged with facilitating reconciliation among regional Islamist militants
    • Ahrar al-Sham seeks to establish a Sunni Islamic state in Syria

    Jaysh al-Islam
    • In November 2013, shortly after Jaysh al-Islam was established, the group helped found the Islamic Front, an umbrella organization of 40,000-70,000 fighters that sought to replace the Assad Regime with an Islamic government
    • In November 2015, the group placed Syrian soldiers and their families in 100 cages in Eastern Ghouta to deter Assad Regime attacks on civilian areas, such as market and hospitals
    • Jaysh al-Islam allegedly used chemical weapons in an attack on the People’s Protection Units and other Kurdish forces in Aleppo in April 2016
    • The coalition wants to replace the Assad Regime with a government based on Shariah law
    • Expressed a desire to cleanse Damascus of all Shiites and Alawis

    Faylaq al-Rahman
    • The group was founded in 2013 and became the second most prominent opposition force in the Damascus governorate after a merger with the Ajnad al-Sham Islamic Union’s Eastern Ghouta fighters
    • A Damascus based group supported by former Al Qaeda affiliate Jabhat Fatah al-Sham, formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra

    So there you have it. All three rebel groups, named specifically by French intelligence, are jihadists who want to turn Syria into an Islamic state governed by a strict interpretation of Sharia law. All three rebel groups named by French intelligence are allied or associated in some way with ISIS and/or AQ.

    These are the groups western governments are supporting in Syria; conversely, they're the groups the Syrian government is fighting against.

    These are also the groups primarily responsible for originating the chemical weapons allegations against the Syrian government.

    Given this, how can anyone want to hinder the Syrian government's efforts to win the civil war? And how can anyone assign even the slightest credibility to the allegations being made against the Syrian government? Is it not painfully obvious that these chemical incidents are being staged by the jihadists in an attempt to frame the Syrian government?
    Looks like you and the French missed some. Not surprising eh Ethereal.


    Here is what makes up the FSA and SNC/STNC.....that we know of and from just Basic Wiki. Which wouldn't have anything that's has taken place recently.


    Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in 2011 during the Syrian civil war as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC), which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council has been recognised or supported in some capacity by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.

    A new opposition umbrella group — the National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces was formed in November 2012 and has gained recognition as the "legitimate representative of the Syrian people" by the Cooperation Council for the Arab States of the Gulf (CCASG) and as a "representative of aspirations of Syrian people" by the Arab League.

    The National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces is a coalition of opposition groups in the Syrian civil war. It formed on 11 November 2012 at a conference of opposition groups held in Doha, Qatar. It includes organisations such as the SNC. Islamic preacher Moaz al-Khatib serves as the president of the coalition, Riad Seif and Suheir Atassi were elected vice presidents. Mustafa Sabbagh is the coalition's secretary-general.

    The Syrian National Council, a coalition of Syrian opposition groups based in Istanbul, formed in 2011 during the Syrian civil war. Key people include chairman as of 2013 George Sabra, and former chairmen Burhan Ghalioun and Abdulbaset Sieda.

    Muslim Brotherhood: Islamist party founded in 1930. The brotherhood was behind the Islamic uprising in Syria between 1976 until 1982. The party is banned in Syria and membership became a capital offence in 1980. The régime of Bashar al Assad, and others[who?], have accused the Muslim Brotherhood of being key players in the Syrian uprising that escalated into a civil war. Other sources have described the group as having "risen from the ashes", "resurrected itself" to be a dominant force in the uprising. Current leader is Ali Sadreddine Al-Bayanouni.

    Coalition of Secular and Democratic Syrians: nucleus of a Syrian secular and democratic opposition that appeared during the Syrian civil war. It came about through the union of a dozen Muslim and Christian, Arab and Kurd parties, who called the minorities of Syria to support the fight against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. The Coalition has also called for military intervention in Syria, under the form of a no-fly zone similar to that of Kosovo, with a safe zone and cities. The president of the coalition, who is also a member of the SNC, is Randa Kassis.

    Damascus Declaration: Opposition bloc from 2005. Twelve members were sentenced to 2.5 years in prison in 2008. Syrian journalist and activist Michel Kilo launched the declaration, after the Syrian writer and thinker Abdulrazak Eid had written its first draft. Riad Seif, another democracy activist, became the first signatory. The "five small opposition groups" signing the declaration were the Arab nationalist National Democratic Rally.

    the Kurdish Democratic Alliance
    the Committees of Civil Society
    the Kurdish Democratic Front


    The Movement of the Future. The Movement for Justice and Development in Syria (MJD) also subscribes to the Damascus Declaration. In a series of splits 2007-2009, most members left the Damascus Declaration, leaving the MJD and SDPP (see below) as the only remaining factions of any consequence, along with a number of independents.

    Syrian Democratic People's Party: A socialist party which played a "key role" in the creation of the SNC. The party's leader George Sabra (a secularist born to a Christian family) is the official spokesman of the SNC, and also ran for chairman.

    Supreme Council of the Syrian Revolution: Syrian opposition group supporting the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad's government. It grants local opposition groups representation in its national organization.

    Assyrian Democratic Organization: A party representing Assyrians in Syria and long repressed by the Assad regime, it has been a participant in opposition structures since the beginning of the conflict. Abdul-Ahad Astepho is a member of the SNC.

    Syrian Turkmen Assembly: A recently formed assembly of Syrian Turkmens which constitutes a coalition of Turkmen parties and groups in Syria. It is against the partition of Syria after the collapse of Baath regime. The common decision of Syrian Turkmen Assembly is: "Regardless of any ethnic or religious identity, a future in which everybody can be able to live commonly under the identity of Syrian is targeted in the future of Syria."

    Syrian Democratic Turkmen Movement: An opposition party of Syrian Turkmens, which was constituted in Istanbul on 21 March 2012. The leader of Syrian Democratic Turkmen Movement is Ziyad Hasan.

    Syrian Turkmen National Bloc: An opposition party of Syrian Turkmens, which was founded in February 2012. The chairman of the political party is Yusuf Molla.

    Local Coordination Committees of Syria: Network of local protest groups that organise and report on protests as part of the Syrian civil war, founded in 2011. As of August 2011, the network supported civil disobedience and opposed local armed resistance and international military intervention as methods of opposing the Syrian government. Key people are activists Razan Zaitouneh and Suhair al-Atassi.

    Free Syrian Army & Higher Military Council: Paramilitary that has been active during the Syrian civil war. Composed mainly of defected Syrian Armed Forces personnel, its formation was announced on 29 July 2011 in a video released on the Internet by a uniformed group of deserters from the Syrian military who called upon members of the Syrian army to defect and join them. The leader of the group, who identified himself as Colonel Riad al-Asaad, announced that the Free Syrian Army would work with demonstrators to bring down the system, and declared that all security forces attacking civilians are justified targets. It has also been reported that many former Syrian Consulates are trying to band together a Free Syrian Navy from fishermen and defectors to secure the coast.

    Al-Tawhid Brigade: an armed group of the Free Syrian Army active in the Battle of Aleppo.

    Liwaa al-Umma: a paramilitary group fighting against the Syrian government in the Syrian civil war. The group was previously led by Mahdi Al-Harati, an Irish-Libyan who led Libyan rebel Tripoli Brigade during the Battle of Tripoli. In September 2012 it came under command of the Free Syrian Army.

    Syrian Turkmen Brigades: An armed opposition structure of Syrian Turkmens fighting against Syrian Armed Forces. It is also the military wing of Syrian Turkmen Assembly. It is led by Colonel Muhammad Awad and Ali Basher.

    Syrian opposition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I strongly suspect this thread will be avoided by certain characters.
    You must mean those leftists that don't know much about the rest of the planet or Foreign Policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Well, yeah. The board's resident geniuses are not likely to post here. So no Ransom. No Tahu. No Grock. No MMC.

    No love.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    So if they overthrow the Syrians, they have to put in another monstrous but obedient dictator, otherwise, it all starts up again. Secondly, I wonder where Russia will draw the line?
    The Russians will draw a line when they and Iran cannot control the free flow of Oil from the ME, and be the dominating influence for the ME.

    Then Ethereal will be upset when Russia and Iran cannot dominate the region all due to his ever encompassing love for the US.
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    Well then lets invite @Grokmaster and @Tahuyaman . We wouldn't want to disappoint a collective.


    Oh and we wouldn't want @Ransom to miss out either.
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    Syrian Refugee: I'd Love to Buy Trump a Beer - He Has a Bigger Heart Than Obama .....


    Kassem Eid survived the 2013 Syrian chemical attack and for nearly two years lived in a constant state of war and violence. As a refugee in America, his heart longs for peace in his home land. After years of President Obama's reluctance to intervene in Syria, Eid is thrilled that President Trump is finally helping the Syrian people. Specifically on CNN yesterday, Eid said he would love to buy Trump a beer and sit down with him to explain just how badly the situation is in Syria.


    From CNN: .....snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timoth...obama-n2471148
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Well, yeah. The board's resident geniuses are not likely to post here. So no Ransom. No Tahu. No Grock. No MMC.

    No love.
    Very little room for genius or even accuracy given you rocket scientists seem to think you know what you're spewing on about. You don't of course, you've been shown your error, got to read our WPA for the first time, let me know if there was anything else I can do for you. Normally sane and grounded, you're flying with Dr. Who on this one. Like Stevie Wonder and Hellen Keller with pilot's licenses. Wing it!
    I like beer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Well, yeah. The board's resident geniuses are not likely to post here. So no Ransom. No Tahu. No Grock. No MMC.

    No love.
    No one has denied that the rebels are jihadists. In fact several times I referred to them as "The Army of Islam.


    That has nothing to do with not accepting the employment of chemical weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Very little room for genius or even accuracy given you rocket scientists seem to think you know what you're spewing on about. You don't of course, you've been shown your error, got to read our WPA for the first time, let me know if there was anything else I can do for you. Normally sane and grounded, you're flying with Dr. Who on this one. Like Stevie Wonder and Hellen Keller with pilot's licenses. Wing it!
    Looks like that means Ethereal is the buffalo sauce.
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