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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Trump's bombing of Syria is a big nothing. In 2 weeks, 99% of Americans will have forgotten it ever happened.

    If the President decides to put boots on the ground, that is a different matter, but a little aerial bombing... nobody gives a $#@!.
    Plenty of people care. Some of Trump's biggest supporters are thrashing him on social media. Ann Coulter, for example, has almost two million followers on Twitter. Michael Savage, whose radio program reaches somewhere around five million listeners, has been excoriating Trump. I've seen Trump supporters on every platform expressing serious anger and doubt about his actions in Syria. They feel betrayed, and rightly so.
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    Probably not.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Plenty of people care. Some of Trump's biggest supporters are thrashing him on social media. Ann Coulter, for example, has almost two million followers on Twitter. Michael Savage, whose radio program reaches somewhere around five million listeners, has been excoriating Trump. I've seen Trump supporters on every platform expressing serious anger and doubt about his actions in Syria. They feel betrayed, and rightly so.
    While I feel dirty defending Cletus on anything, he’s got a point here. The average American (of all ages) has a very short attention span. Some of the most ardently anti-war in Syria will forget about this in the next few weeks and by the time 2020 rolls around, they may not remember it at all, or will remember it very differently. This is just a fact of how Americans behave and vote.
    "Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most — that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least."
    - Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926), five-time Socialist Party candidate for U.S. President

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    While I feel dirty defending Cletus on anything, he’s got a point here. The average American (of all ages) has a very short attention span. Some of the most ardently anti-war in Syria will forget about this in the next few weeks and by the time 2020 rolls around, they may not remember it at all, or will remember it very differently. This is just a fact of how Americans behave and vote.
    The defining issue occurs in this November. If the Democrats take both House and Senate them President Trump will be impeached and may be removed.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


    I pledge allegiance to the Constitution as written and understood by this nation's founders, and to the Republic it created, an indivisible union of sovereign States, with liberty and justice for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    While I feel dirty defending Cletus on anything, he’s got a point here. The average American (of all ages) has a very short attention span. Some of the most ardently anti-war in Syria will forget about this in the next few weeks and by the time 2020 rolls around, they may not remember it at all, or will remember it very differently. This is just a fact of how Americans behave and vote.
    I never feel "dirty" defending you.

    The only reason it happens so seldom is because you almost never say anything worth defending.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    While I feel dirty defending Cletus on anything, he’s got a point here. The average American (of all ages) has a very short attention span. Some of the most ardently anti-war in Syria will forget about this in the next few weeks and by the time 2020 rolls around, they may not remember it at all, or will remember it very differently. This is just a fact of how Americans behave and vote.
    That's true, but it goes both ways. That same short attention span is what makes them so susceptible to losing their enthusiasm for a cause or a candidate. Trump just gave millions of fickle Americans a reason to give up on him. I suspect many will take the offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Plenty of people care. Some of Trump's biggest supporters are thrashing him on social media. Ann Coulter, for example, has almost two million followers on Twitter. Michael Savage, whose radio program reaches somewhere around five million listeners, has been excoriating Trump. I've seen Trump supporters on every platform expressing serious anger and doubt about his actions in Syria. They feel betrayed, and rightly so.

    Thing is he counters everything you might not like with something you might well like, and so forget the negatives for the positives. He signed a huge spending bill, but had cut taxes; his protectionist policies are horrendous econmically, but he cut regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Arrow View Post
    While I feel dirty defending Cletus on anything, he’s got a point here. The average American (of all ages) has a very short attention span. Some of the most ardently anti-war in Syria will forget about this in the next few weeks and by the time 2020 rolls around, they may not remember it at all, or will remember it very differently. This is just a fact of how Americans behave and vote.
    That may be true of those who vote "R" no matter what, but the rest of his support is not that loyal.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    That may be true of those who vote "R" no matter what, but the rest of his support is not that loyal.
    Theres always two sides to base a decision on, it will be not only do they want to vote for trump or not, its also about how much they do not want to vote for the other candidate.

    Lesser of the two evil syndrome
    LETS GO BRANDON
    F Joe Biden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Plenty of people care. Some of Trump's biggest supporters are thrashing him on social media. Ann Coulter, for example, has almost two million followers on Twitter. Michael Savage, whose radio program reaches somewhere around five million listeners, has been excoriating Trump. I've seen Trump supporters on every platform expressing serious anger and doubt about his actions in Syria. They feel betrayed, and rightly so.
    Thats true ethereal but in the end do you think Ann coulter will endorse a liberal progressive over trump next election.

    You can be unhappy with what a candidate does on one issue, like syria but when it comes time to vote you have to choose between two and what they stand for and what they will do.
    LETS GO BRANDON
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