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Thread: Astonishing California bill would shut down free speech, require fact-checkers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Hmmm. Government approved news. What could possibly go wrong?
    1984.................
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    1984.................
    Well then there was those 2 terms of Bilbo. Just sayin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Some of the junk being passed off as news by people like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. That is not protected speech.
    Oh really? HOW? By disagreeing with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Please show me where it said it will only be applied to conservatives.
    "California bill "


    Obvious.
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    My intuition based on recent legal precedent tells me:

    -- the bill will not pass
    -- if the bill passes it will generate an avalanche of protest, and it will be overturned by courts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Some of the junk being passed off as news by people like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. That is not protected speech.
    I don't know who Alex Jones is and I don't listen to Rush, but neither of them are news from what I understand. Moreover, they are not the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. The question in every case, as stated by the USC, is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. Neither are a clear nor present danger.

    Personally, I like Andrew Wilkow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    It chills free speech. Period.
    Sadly more Millennials then people of previous generations oppose Free Speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    Sadly more Millennials then people of previous generations oppose Free Speech.
    They have been conditioned to do so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    They have been conditioned to do so....
    I hope America continues to be a Free Nation. What can we do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    I hope America continues to be a Free Nation. What can we do?
    Get rid of the Democrats to ensure that.
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