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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    You are aware the majority (well over 90% I believe) of fake news sites out there are right wing-oriented, right?
    You are aware that it is still constitutionally dangerous to restrict speech based on content? How did we come to this? To the point that American Citizens are openly advocating the content-based restriction of speech. OMG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    You are aware that it is still constitutionally dangerous to restrict speech based on content? How did we come to this? To the point that American Citizens are openly advocating the content-based restriction of speech. OMG.
    Today's Liberals are mostly against Free Speech.

    In 1960s, Liberals started Free Speech Movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    Astonishing California bill would shut down free speech, require fact-checkers
    by Jon Rappoport

    This originally appeared at Jon Rappoport’s blog, NoMoreFakeNews.com, on April 9, 2018.

    California used to be trumpeted as the cutting edge of American culture.
    It still is, except the culture is now all about censoring free speech.
    California Senator Richard Pan, who was behind the infamous 2015 law mandating vaccinations for schoolchildren (SB277), has stepped up to the plate and introduced another bill.
    This one would clamp down on criticism of any Official Story.
    The bill is titled “SB1424 Internet: social media: false information: strategic plan.”
    It targets social media based in California. But as you read the bill, you see it appears to define social media as any internet blog, website or communication.
    SB1424 is brief. Read it:
    This bill would require any person who operates a social media, as defined, Internet Web site with a physical presence in California to develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Web site. The bill would require the plan to include, among other things, a plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories, the utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories, providing outreach to social media users, and placing a warning on a news story containing false information.
    (a) Any person who operates a social media Internet Web site with physical presence in California shall develop a strategic plan to verify news stories shared on its Internet Web site.
    (b) The strategic plan shall include, but is not limited to, all of the following:
    (1) A plan to mitigate the spread of false information through news stories.
    (2) The utilization of fact-checkers to verify news stories.
    (3) Providing outreach to social media users regarding news stories containing false information.
    (4) Placing a warning on a news story containing false information.
    (c) As used in this section, “social media” means an electronic service or account, or electronic content, including, but not limited to, videos, still photographs, blogs, video blogs, podcasts, instant and text messages, email, online services or accounts, or Internet Web site profiles or locations.
    Getting the picture?
    It’s a free speech killer.
    If it passes, agencies of the California government will develop numerous regulations for enforcement, including penalties for “speech criminals.”
    Saying this bill violates the 1st Amendment of the Constitution is a vast understatement. The last time I looked, the Founders mentioned nothing about fact checkers or warnings attached to speech.
    “Open borders and a flood of immigration into California are destructive to — wait. My statement has been precluded by warnings and fact-checker overrides…”
    Or: “Vaccines are dangerous. Ahem, I am making a debatable assertion and I must warn you that official experts strenuously disagree with me, and furthermore, the California Fact Checkers United, a division of Merck-Snopes Thought Police, has determined that my assertion is groundless and harmful to children’s health…”
    There needs to be a relentless tsunami of protest in California over this Orwellian bill. I know of a number of internet news operations in the state. They must jump in and lead the way.
    In case you believe there are too many websites and blogs based in California to enforce a new draconian law, let me explain how the game works. Behind closed doors, the state government would decide to focus on a few big issues. For example, gun control, vaccines and immigration. Enforcement agencies would go after the biggest internet operations expressing politically unacceptable points of view on those subjects. At first. A spread of smaller operations would feel the heat later.
    So-called fact checkers would come from government supported groups who agree with Official Positions. In other words, they wouldn’t be fact checkers at all. They would be prime news fakers.
    When it comes to the issue of vaccines, for example, they would cite the notoriously biased “experts” at the Centers for Disease Control, never mentioning that the CDC buys and sells $4 billion of vaccines a year.
    If, 10 or 15 years ago, someone told you a bill like SB1424 was going to come before a state legislature for a vote, you would have thought you were listening to a Hollywood pitch for a sci-fi movie script.
    But now it’s real. It’s here. Believe it.
    Crush it.

    https://personalliberty.com/astonish...fact-checkers/

    well, since California has already destroyed the 2nd 4th, and 5th Amendments, why not go after the 1st Amendment?
    I've been saying the 2nd A protects and supports the 1st A and covers the rest, the citizens are no longer able to protect their natural Rights.
    "We'll tell you what you can say and see..........your 1st A Rights are of no concern to the government...and you can't stop us now. We have your guns!"



    It'll never pass, even there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Some of the junk being passed off as news by people like Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones is the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. That is not protected speech.
    This is utter, fascist nonsense.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is utter, fascist nonsense.

    We we are doomed.
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    You would be mistaken.
    And why is that? These fake news stories can do real harm. Like the moron that went to a pizza parlor with a rifle,
    Attention:

    The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.

    That Is All.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is utter, fascist nonsense.
    Nope, this reality.
    Attention:

    The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves.

    That Is All.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Nope, this reality.
    Nope, your opinion is not reality.
    Edmund Burke: "In vain you tell me that Artificial Government is good, but that I fall out only with the Abuse. The Thing! the Thing itself is the Abuse!"

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